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Username Post: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?        (Topic#22916)
Bruno 
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03-17-19 08:34 PM - Post#281841    

Kenpom says they are dynamite offensively - except from three, which they don’t take a ton of - and excellent defensively, with one of the top steal rates in the nation. They play two twin towers - which may be why they are also top 5 in o-boards - but they don’t seem to be on the court a lot together. They skew young - with three of their top four minute-getters being underclassmen.

Kenpom’s ranking of LSU suggests they got seeded higher than they’d earned.

The only game they’ve lost to a team with a ranking like Yale’s was Oklahoma State on a neutral court. Their best win was at Kentucky.

As far as 3-14 matchups go, this seems like a pretty good one for Yale.


LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)


 
Stuart Suss 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-17-19 08:40 PM - Post#281843    
    In response to Bruno

The game tips off at 12:40 pm Thursday afternoon on TruTV.



 
Chip Bayers 
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03-17-19 11:00 PM - Post#281858    
    In response to Stuart Suss

The biggest disadvantage I’d see for Yale is that Wade the interim coach was a Harvard assistant and thus will take them seriously, and knows the scouting report on JaJo teams, albeit not this parrticular collection of players.

Still, a very winnable game.


 
SRP 
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03-18-19 02:59 AM - Post#281868    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Yale has a great chance to bring the pain to LSU. A team with a lot of three-point shooters and a couple of creative scorers, that passes the ball well, against a team that is not so good from beyond the arc.

 
palestra38 
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03-18-19 10:30 AM - Post#281898    
    In response to SRP

It would be nice if there were any Yale posters on this site.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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03-18-19 10:47 AM - Post#281903    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
It would be nice if there were any Yale posters on this site.


I have often wondered where they lurk. Twitter? Instagram?

Geocities?

 
Go Green 
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So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 12:48 PM - Post#281923    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
It would be nice if there were any Yale posters on this site.



There are days (such as today and yesterday) when I really can't blame them for not coming on this Board.

*sigh*


Edited by Go Green on 03-18-19 12:48 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
PennFan10 
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03-18-19 02:48 PM - Post#281934    
    In response to Go Green

Very glad to see the best team in the Ivy league again represented in the NCAA as decided on the court. I have to think Yale will give LSU some problems as they seem to match up well with the Tigers. They take a lot of 2's and drive the ball. Their starting 5 are big but Yale can match up with them with 2 bigs as well as Oni.

I picked Yale in my bracket to win a first round game.

 
Chip Bayers 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 03:05 PM - Post#281936    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
Yale has a great chance to bring the pain to LSU. A team with a lot of three-point shooters and a couple of creative scorers, that passes the ball well, against a team that is not so good from beyond the arc.



Just glancing through the kenpom stats, there are a couple of strength-on-strength points to watch when it comes to Yale’s offense vs. LSU’s D:

* Yale is just outside the top 50 nationally in A/FGM—but LSU is top 25 in limiting assisted hoops and forcing hero ball.

* Yale is 45th nationally in avoiding blocked shots—LSU is 48th in block %.

As for weakness on strength, the biggest challenge Yale will face is LSU’s ability to generate steals. Yale 272nd nationally with their 9.7 steal %, while LSU is 5th, getting steals on 12.6% of opponent possessions.

You mentioned the threes, and it’s true LSU isn’t great from the perimeter. They also are at best mediocre at preventing threes and 3-pt. shooting % by opponents. Yale has one of the best make %s in the country but on average they don’t shoot a ton of them—may be worthwhile to funnel more 3-FGAs to the likes of Oni, Copeland, and especially the marksmen Swain and Reynolds. A couple of early makes from the latter could also help pull some of the LSU shotblocking away from the paint and give Oni wider lanes to attack the rim, and Copeland more room for his mid-range pull-ups.


Edited by Chip Bayers on 03-18-19 03:07 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
SRP 
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03-18-19 03:10 PM - Post#281939    
    In response to Chip Bayers

The good news for Yale is that they start two heroes even though they get a lot of assists.

 
Chip Bayers 
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So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 03:25 PM - Post#281940    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
The good news for Yale is that they start two heroes even though they get a lot of assists.



Yeah, they just have to be at their smartest when deciding whether to take it into range of the shotblockers vs. finding the open teammate. Can’t give LSU the live ball breakouts that an in-play rejection or bad pass steal will produce.


Edited by Chip Bayers on 03-18-19 03:25 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
james 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 09:05 PM - Post#281971    
    In response to Chip Bayers

Tremont waters might be best on ball defender in the country. James knows him well. He is a new haven kid and was recruited by Yale heavily.

Yale cldnt start their offense in the right zip code against duke bc of ball pressure. Didn’t matter as much against Memphis in terms of outcome (jobbed by the refs) but to’s and and the press were tough. Yale’s offense worked though when they got to the half court. The refs were criminal in deciding that outcome. And Miami played differently despite having a small quick pg.

I think taking care of the ball which has been an issue and still rebounding with their bigs will be big challenges. they will be undersized vs naz and bigby Williams. And oni hasn’t played well since Princeton #1 against a good big guard/wing. Lush has several of those types. Strangely naz Reid is a bigger version of bruner and Reynolds. Not having a size adv will be challenging esp bc Reid plays in space well.

I wonder when Jordan overcomes his 4 knee surgeries in 3 yrs mentally. I hope a real offseason injury free does it. But his hesitation in the paint could be a problem given Reid is a bigger version. It would be awesome if his dog streak I saw in high school came out on this stage but that’s also an unfair expectation. He has perhaps the highest ceiling on the team or at least James believes it but a lot to overcome mentally with that history.

Yale came into the year like last with one pg, Eric monroe. But copeland has been awesome in this role. Can he do it w the water bug in his grill?


I have seen LSU and they have great talent. money bought them a top 5 talent base really. They are a mix bt duke and Memphis in many ways. Bigger than Memphis and more skilled but just as athletic. Not on dukes level though.

unfortunately it’s also a popular upset pick down south which is not good. They are sneaking up on no one.

Regardless I will carry the torch from section 110. Beating amaker when it mAttered this year means they have already won at least in my book. Go bulldogs!



 
palestra38 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 09:23 PM - Post#281976    
    In response to james

Great to hear from a Yale fan. Hope you stay with us. Good luck!

 
Naismith 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 10:06 PM - Post#281984    
    In response to james

Yes, major home bag job at Memphis. Good luck this week. Yale earned it in final 15 minutes.

 
james 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 10:39 PM - Post#281986    
    In response to Naismith

also and As a preface I have tremendous respect for what Harvard has built...but to hear Amaker say Yale is the most talented team in the league is just laughable. And convenient.

Next year harvard is terrifying and you could have said that for at least 2-3 years running. On paper. My guess is next year will be the year. But let’s stay honest until then

they recruit on a different level.

 
PennFan10 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 11:11 PM - Post#281992    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
Great to hear from a Yale fan. Hope you stay with us. Good luck!



Agree, even one who refers to himself in the 3rd person.

 
james 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-18-19 11:24 PM - Post#281996    
    In response to PennFan10

James=James Jones. No I am not him. So those are two different ppl you are confusing as one. I am but a different James. But I know the James oft cited above quite well:)

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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03-19-19 02:21 PM - Post#282080    
    In response to james

Wonder if Yale can draw fouls on LSU?
Eli's were 54-56 from the line in the Ivy Tournament.

LSU is a strong FT shooting squad, shooting 75.4% on the season compared to Yale's 73.6%.

LSU did exhibit a strong "FT defense" by holding opponents to 68.8%

 
Bruno 
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So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-19-19 11:20 PM - Post#282167    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

I love that the opponents’ FT pct is a stat. I’ve actually paid some attention to it because Brown’s FT defense tends to be pretty good. Top 40 in the nation this year!

Do we think there is *anything* to this statistic? Like some modest correlation between it and home court advantage? Or to foul committed rate? Or to overall defensive efficiency?
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)


 
penn nation 
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Re: So... anyone going to talk about LSU?
03-20-19 12:04 AM - Post#282177    
    In response to Bruno

Penn did a great job at defending the FTs last year. They won the IL title, so clearly that's really all you need.

 
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