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Username Post: George Washington - James Jones Rumor        (Topic#22923)
HGA 
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03-20-19 04:52 PM - Post#282255    
    In response to mrjames

I'm agreeing with you in that I believe that someone wouldn't leave Yale for GW unless it was for money. Of course there may be other factors at play but Yale is a top-rated academic institution with a highly rated basketball program that just won the Ivy title. Additionally, Jones has played a significant role in the Ivys being able to attract top talent and receive the recognition it has earned as a basketball conference.

 
penn nation 
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03-20-19 05:34 PM - Post#282258    
    In response to HGA

Maybe JJ is thinking it may be a while before he gets to go back to the Dance. The next few years are going to be tough sledding.

 
mrjames 
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03-20-19 06:35 PM - Post#282262    
    In response to penn nation

Yeah, I mean, that’s another important point. Penn finished No. 100 at Bart and barely made the Ivy Tourney after a stellar non-conf campaign. Brown’s 150 at Bart and got left out. The margin between champ and not Top 4 is shrinking.

At the same time, he’s threaded the needle with three Ivy championships in five seasons while Harvard paid for three years of assistant turnover with some awful classes then got slammed with injuries, while Penn was building up and then got slammed with injuries and right before, then right after Princeton hit its top of cycle.

Paul Atkinson is an outstanding piece and Swain is good too, but every other contributor on this team is a junior or senior, meaning that he’s got one more shot into the teeth of top-of-cycle Penn and Harvard before having to hit reset a bit, and his team already loses the most of the three.

I want to be clear - I don’t expect Yale to slip out of the Top 4 necessarily (until recently it was Jones’s most noteworthy skill). But I also don’t see a clear path to another three title in five year run. He could coach at Yale forever, and I don’t suspect this would be his last tourney. I do suspect it’s likely the greatest performance-based springboard opportunity to a higher level job that he’s going to see, though. And I think if he can, he’ll take it.

 
SRP 
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03-20-19 07:50 PM - Post#282268    
    In response to mrjames

But GW is not a "higher-level" job even if they pay more in salary. Is their basketball budget going to be competitive with other A10 schools? Is the A10 going to be generally higher-ranked than the Ivies?

If Jones could get a Big East job or a decent Mountain West job, that would be a clear step up. GW? A dumpster fire in a declining league, what with the Lonergan departure under a cloud, the hasty hiring of the in-over-his-head-assistan t, and a situation that looks like this:

"The Colonials have reached the NCAA Tournament only four times in the last 20 seasons and once since the 2013-14 campaign.

According to data provided by the U.S. Department of Education, GW’s 2016 budget for the men’s basketball program ($2.94 million) ranked below the Atlantic 10 Conference average of $4.3 million and 13th among the league’s 14 teams. The 2018-19 numbers are comparable, according to a source.

Thompson’s individual salary alone at Georgetown, based on published reports, topped GW’s 2016 basketball budget."

https://www.nbcsports.com/washington/ncaa/candi dat...

The above article contains the usual aspirational claims from the administration (interestingly off the record), but no concrete budget commitment to back those up. It also mentions many other candidates, but not James Jones.

 
rbg 
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03-21-19 09:59 AM - Post#282312    
    In response to SRP

From today's Daily Dirt section of the Hoop Dirt website.

https://hoopdirt.com/daily-dirt-3-21-19/

The hot name right now at George Washington is UMBC head coach Ryan Odom. A sneaky name here is Yale head coach James Jones. Parker is running this one.

 
weinhauers_ghost 
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03-21-19 04:29 PM - Post#282426    
    In response to rbg

  • rbg Said:
From today's Daily Dirt section of the Hoop Dirt website.

https://hoopdirt.com/daily-dirt-3-21-19/

The hot name right now at George Washington is UMBC head coach Ryan Odom. A sneaky name here is Yale head coach James Jones. Parker is running this one.



ESPN says GW is hiring Siena's Jamion Christian.

 
Old Bear 
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03-21-19 04:40 PM - Post#282431    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

Didn't he just get to Siena?

 
Go Green 
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03-21-19 05:00 PM - Post#282434    
    In response to weinhauers_ghost

  • weinhauers_ghost Said:
  • rbg Said:
From today's Daily Dirt section of the Hoop Dirt website.

https://hoopdirt.com/daily-dirt-3-21-19/

The hot name right now at George Washington is UMBC head coach Ryan Odom. A sneaky name here is Yale head coach James Jones. Parker is running this one.



ESPN says GW is hiring Siena's Jamion Christian.



Can't imagine anyone in Foggy Bottom being excited about this...

 
Mike Porter 
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03-21-19 05:25 PM - Post#282436    
    In response to Go Green

1) This was his first year at Siena so this is a real dick move
2) If GW has any fans this will likely urinate them off

 
Mike Porter 
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03-21-19 05:59 PM - Post#282438    
    In response to Mike Porter

gwhoops.com looks like their message board and the owner of it updated the web title to be gwhoops.com - help is not coming... lol

In the process it looks like they jacked up the page so I can't read the thread about new coach

 
rbg 
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03-25-19 08:44 AM - Post#282653    
    In response to Mike Porter

Tulane hired Ron Hunter from Georgia State as its new coach.

https://www.theadvocate.com/new_orleans/sports/tu l...

Hunter seems like a good choice for the Green Wave.

 
rbg 
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03-15-22 10:43 AM - Post#339245    
    In response to rbg

  • Quote:
03-18-19 07:11 PM - Post#281961

Jeff Goodman reports that James Jones is one of 3 names he is hearing for GW's head coaching job along with John Thompson III and UMBC's Ryan Odom.

https://twitter.com/GoodmanHoops/status/1 107709177...



Jamion Christian was fired from GW after 3 seasons.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaabk/g eorge-was...

James Jones' name was mentioned back in March 2019 for this job. With the university having more financial stability and a new president since that last go around, maybe they can offer more money to their next coach.

 
LocalTiger 
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03-16-22 09:08 AM - Post#339351    
    In response to rbg

The A-10 is a multi-bid League, so in that sense it would be a step up.
But GW is a dumpster fire. Jones is smart enough to stay away.

 
palestra38 
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03-16-22 09:21 AM - Post#339352    
    In response to LocalTiger

Didn't Princeton have a coach that left for Fairfield?! Money talks.

 
LocalTiger 
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03-16-22 12:45 PM - Post#339370    
    In response to palestra38

Very different circumstances. Fairfield had a stable President who
was a Princeton Alum. GW has an interim President, an under-fire AD, and a horrible record of firing coaches, even successful ones.
All that said, Sydney probably wishes he stayed. If Jones leaves for
GW, he is not making a smart bet. Better offers should come his way.

 
palestra38 
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03-16-22 12:47 PM - Post#339371    
    In response to LocalTiger

I agree that it was a bad decision for Sydney. But Fairfield, if anything, was a step sideways if not down. If they offer enough money he has to listen. And GW is clearly a step up in power.

 
Ever True 
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03-16-22 01:15 PM - Post#339376    
    In response to palestra38

Wonder if James will get a call from URI or UMass - also in the A10, but in slightly more familiar recruiting territory with larger fanbases, bigger budgets, more clout, etc.

 
PennFan10 
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03-16-22 02:10 PM - Post#339380    
    In response to Ever True

James came to Yale when he was told he couldn't win there. Took him a while but clearly he proved people wrong.

 
1LotteryPick1969 
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03-16-22 07:52 PM - Post#339408    
    In response to PennFan10

GW is without a doubt a step down from Yale, especially recruiting.

However, Sydney Johnson doubled his salary at Fairfield, which seems to have mattered.

Can't say what Jones' priorities might be, but I can't see GW.

JTIII made so much money at Georgetown, he might just want to get back in the game, irrespective of salary.

 
rbg 
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03-18-22 12:07 AM - Post#339488    
    In response to 1LotteryPick1969

https://hoopdirt.com/daily-dirt-3-15-22/

- Early at George Washington, but some names to keep an eye on are Miami associate head coach Chris Caputo and Yale head coach James Jones. Obviously really early here though. -

 
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