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Mike Porter 
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Mike Porter
Loc: Los Angeles, CA
Reg: 11-21-04
03-19-19 11:47 PM - Post#282173    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Wow... that sucks and sorry to hear that for Mike Martin and Brown fans.

I have to agree that:

1) Its a crap move to announce this BEFORE post season games after a good season, and step forward for the program.

2) If this is a basketball based decision and he just wants to go to a bigger program, that's a dumb, short sighted decision as he could have gotten an Ivy League degree and recognition at Brown, especially when they were looking like a top 4 team next year for sure. Playing at Yale sure hasn't stopped Oni from getting a lot of scouting love...

Anyone have an inside scoop on the logic, or lack thereof here for this move?

 
HGA 
Freshman
Posts: 55

Loc: New York
Reg: 10-16-18
03-20-19 02:31 AM - Post#282181    
    In response to Mike Porter

Heard that he did not enjoy his time while at Brown. At some point, some kids may choose overall happiness.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
Masters Student
Posts: 921

Loc: Our Nation's Capital
Reg: 01-18-05
Cambridge
03-20-19 09:56 AM - Post#282192    
    In response to HGA

Yeah, this stinks. Loved watching him play, even if he did make life tough for my team. That baseline spin move and dunk against Woods at the Palestra was some eye-popping, high-major stuff right there.

To my eyes, he's the most exciting player the conference has seen in a long time, maybe since Onyekwe. Hope he lands at a program that's a good fit for him.

Edited by T.P.F.K.A.D.W. on 03-20-19 09:57 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Naismith 
Freshman
Posts: 53

Loc: RI
Reg: 11-11-18
Cambridge
03-20-19 10:12 AM - Post#282193    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

I doubt if it's the parents encouraging their kids to pass up an Ivy degree for what amounts to an NBA Lotto chance. Kids should watch a couple of their games on ESPN+ replay, then a couple NBA games, and then look in the mirror.

Maybe Oni and Towns are a couple of D-League years away from a shot, but All-Ivy level kids are more likely to extend their careers in Europe. And that's not a bad option for many reasons.

Edited by Naismith on 03-20-19 10:13 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
jst4245 
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Posts: 63

Age: 45
Reg: 05-23-12
Cambridge
03-20-19 10:20 AM - Post#282195    
    In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.

Tough loss for the Bears and for Cambridge IMO.

From a basketball standpoint I am not sure what else he could have asked for. He had carte blanche (with terrible %) for two years and clearly was going to be given the same green light for two more. Word is there were NBA scouts not only at Bears games but practices as well this year - so he was getting the exposure kids dream of. While he was the most exciting player in the Ivy League in quite some time, I am afraid (for him) he is going to blend right in on a high major team and will be relegated to more of a spot up shooter type of role. He was able to get away with his inability to dribble in the Ivy League, but that will be exposed real quick at a higher level.

Something tells me that Bruce Weber or Mark Turgeon will not be as accepting of his 27 footers as Martin was.

Wish the kid the best, sad to see him go.



Edited by jst4245 on 03-20-19 10:21 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
rbg 
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Reg: 10-20-14
03-20-19 01:03 PM - Post#282217    
    In response to HGA

HGA,

You mentioned in this thread that both Cambridge and King did not enjoy their time at Brown.

I know that Columbia had a number of people leave from last year's team, but over the last several years, Brown seems to have had more players leave or transfer than others in the league.

Do you have any idea if their unhappiness was due to the academics, the team, the coaching staff or other reasons?

 
HGA 
Freshman
Posts: 55

Loc: New York
Reg: 10-16-18
03-20-19 03:07 PM - Post#282226    
    In response to rbg

Brown has lost a number of players due to transfer over the past few years and I too wonder why. I don't know King, but heard he had some differences with the coaching staff (there are two sides to every story!). Regarding Dez, I believe that it was a number of factors. He is a bright kid who is very passionate about basketball. He will have an opportunity to play at a higher ranked basketball program and hopefully have the opportunity to replicate the success he had at Brown. It's a shame that he wont graduate with a Brown degree but I'm sure he'll be fine at the end.

 
SomeGuy 
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Reg: 11-22-04
03-20-19 05:31 PM - Post#282257    
    In response to mrjames

Perhaps to your point, it is kind of amazing that Brown went 7-7 in the league with a guy playing huge minutes with a 75 ORAT and 30% usage rate. Gives you a sense of how efficient everyone else was.

It’s never as simple as just saying they’ll replace all those possessions with guys with higher ORATs — it is probably the case that the other ORATs were so high in part because of all the defensive focus on Cambridge. For all the Penn focus on analytics, it was pretty clear that they didn’t just say “that guy will shoot Brown out of the game” — they still put Woods on him and defended him like he was the best player in the court.

But I think Okolie is actually the bigger loss for Brown.

 
SRP 
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Posts: 3828

Reg: 02-04-06
03-20-19 08:05 PM - Post#282273    
    In response to SomeGuy

Yeah, losing both Okolie and Cambridge may affect the defense next year. Okolie was obviously a very good defender, and Cambridge had a way of being disruptive, especially with his shot blocking.

 
Old Bear 
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Reg: 11-23-04
03-20-19 09:41 PM - Post#282283    
    In response to SRP

They did a pretty good job on UAB, and Anderson was hurt and did't play.

 
rbg 
PhD Student
Posts: 1814

Reg: 10-20-14
04-19-19 12:26 PM - Post#283814    
    In response to Old Bear

According to his twitter feed, his choices are between Stanford, Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech.

An article at 247 Sports notes that his sister is a rising sophomore on the Vanderbilt women's team.

https://247sports.com/college/vanderbilt/Ar ticle/V...



 
Bruno 
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Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Reg: 11-21-04
04-20-19 10:31 PM - Post#283835    
    In response to rbg

Let’s hope for two of the three. Stanford or going home to play at Vanderbilt - also a terrific school - would be great outcomes for Dez.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)


 
HGA 
Freshman
Posts: 55

Loc: New York
Reg: 10-16-18
04-21-19 07:20 AM - Post#283837    
    In response to Bruno

I’d say it’s Vanderbilt. Good academic school, at home, and where his sister plays at too.

 
PennFan10 
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Posts: 2341

Reg: 02-15-15
04-21-19 04:59 PM - Post#283848    
    In response to HGA

I agree Vandy is the likely landing spot. The other point is that, like the IL, Stanford rarely takes transfers.

 
rbg 
PhD Student
Posts: 1814

Reg: 10-20-14
04-24-19 09:00 AM - Post#283916    
    In response to PennFan10

Cambridge is now down to Vanderbilt and Virginia Tech.

http://southeasthoops.com/2019/04/23/vanderbilt -ma...

 
Bruno 
PhD Student
Posts: 1100

Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Reg: 11-21-04
04-25-19 10:51 PM - Post#283940    
    In response to rbg

Vandy would seem much more appealing. Stays home. Joins a rebuilding team that doesn’t already have great guards. Playing for Stackhouse would seem to be appealing. And the academic credential is far better than VT.

What you can’t account for is the new coach ramping it up and attracting some new hotshot guards in time for Dez to become eligible to play.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)


 
internetter 
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Loc: Los Angeles
Reg: 11-21-04
04-28-19 09:52 PM - Post#283972    
    In response to Bruno

He tweeted he will announce his choice Monday, 8PM ET.
west coast fan


 
rbg 
PhD Student
Posts: 1814

Reg: 10-20-14
04-30-19 04:21 PM - Post#284026    
    In response to internetter

No info last night. Maybe this evening?

 
Bruno 
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Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Reg: 11-21-04
05-01-19 12:36 AM - Post#284044    
    In response to rbg

The internets thinks something’s up. Speculation ranging from he’s returning to Brown to VT lost interest just as he was about to announce.

Bet you one dollar he’s a Commodore.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)


 
Bruno 
PhD Student
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Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Reg: 11-21-04
05-01-19 05:31 PM - Post#284089    
    In response to Bruno

Internet getting impatient with lack of an announcement. Apparently - although I haven't confirmed this - he tweeted that he'd make the call Monday night. We're now nearly 48 hours past that with no word. Something seems up.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh)


 
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