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GoBigGreenBasketball 
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03-22-19 12:50 AM - Post#282457    

It is tough to be Green right now. With our consecutively deinishing Ivy League wins, while watching the league get stronger overall, I’m left wondering how far are we from post season play. Seeing Yale, Harvard, Cornell, and Brown play in various post season tourneys is great for the league but heavy on this Big Green heart. Heck, throw in Penn and Princeton’s Ivy League tourney appearance, and that leave just us and Columbia out of some form of post season action. Even Columbia won the CIT a few years back. C’est La Vie.



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Chip Bayers 
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Re: March Sadness
03-22-19 01:03 AM - Post#282458    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Is it better or worse to be Dartmouth or to be Evan Boudreaux who dumped Dartmouth to go to Xavier so he’d get a chance to play in the Tournament?

He had to dump that plan when Chris Mack went to Louisville, and ended up at Purdue.

Then had a minor injury in January, lost his rotation spot, and now is buried deep on the bench. So today his team was in the NCAAs, but he wasn’t, pulling his 9th DNP since January 8th. He’s been on the floor a total of 51 minutes over the last 19 games.


Edited by Chip Bayers on 03-22-19 01:04 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Go Green 
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Re: March Sadness
03-22-19 12:17 PM - Post#282480    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

  • GoBigGreenBasketball Said:
It is tough to be Green right now. With our consecutively deinishing Ivy League wins, while watching the league get stronger overall, I’m left wondering how far are we from post season play. Seeing Yale, Harvard, Cornell, and Brown play in various post season tourneys is great for the league but heavy on this Big Green heart. Heck, throw in Penn and Princeton’s Ivy League tourney appearance, and that leave just us and Columbia out of some form of post season action. Even Columbia won the CIT a few years back. C’est La Vie.




We're all frustrated with the lack of Ws. But I do think that McLaughlin can legitimately claim that we're not far off from the upper division. Every team except us will be losing significant contributors. Those close losses should turn into wins.

I'm also confident that McLaughin will spend the offseason studying the last four minutes of close games and trying to come up with schemes to steal a basket here and there. Belmont had success with that fake-panic-backdoor-pass that would also have worked against Maryland if the defender hadn't deflected the pass. Magic like that can be the difference between a W and a L.

Football went through some of this as well. 1998-2009 were bad years. 2016 was a year when we had several agonizingly close losses. We got over those humps. Basketball should as well.

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Re: March Sadness
03-24-19 10:54 AM - Post#282576    
    In response to Go Green

Would, Could, and Magic are not things to build a program on. I'm from Missouri the "Show Me State". First I'll need to know who's returning. We've had pretty big staff turnover in the last couple years. Who's coming back both staff and players. We lost our best player one year! Things could change before next season that undermines our seniority advantage. Second I want to see a better SOS. Playing lesser competition doesn't prepare us for league. The last thing that needs to happen is a better approach to depth, especially when we get to league. We don't have confidence beyond the 6th man IMO. In the past we had guys like Cameron Smith who I know could contribute, was buried on the bench. Guys disappear under McLaughlin. Foye however, was a testament development that can happen. So it's possible. But I'll believe it when I see it.
"...no excuses - only results!”


Edited by GoBigGreenBasketball on 03-24-19 10:56 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Go Green 
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Re: March Sadness
03-25-19 05:29 PM - Post#282698    
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  • GoBigGreenBasketball Said:
Second I want to see a better SOS. Playing lesser competition doesn't prepare us for league.



If you've been paying attention to Dartmouth football in this century, you'll know that there is very little correlation between playing tougher OOC teams and league performance.

Indeed, Dartmouth football began to turn it around when we lightened up on the OOC teams. It's gotten to the point where alums are bored beating up on our OOC teams and are openly calling for Teevens to try to schedule stronger OOC teams. (We haven't lost a OOC game in something like five years).

If you have examples of direct correlations between scheduling up and doing better in league play in basketball, I"m listening.

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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Re: March Sadness
03-26-19 01:30 AM - Post#282772    
    In response to Go Green

Using cumulative win probabilities to predict NCAA basketball performance

SOS matters. However, beyond the numbers, most observers would concur that you get better by playing better competition.
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
westcoast 
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03-27-19 12:41 PM - Post#282867    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

Evan Daniels is reporting that Sophomore forward Adrease Jackson is transferring out of Dartmouth.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/11 109027544...

 
Go Green 
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03-27-19 02:08 PM - Post#282883    
    In response to westcoast

  • westcoast Said:
Evan Daniels is reporting that Sophomore forward Adrease Jackson is transferring out of Dartmouth.

https://twitter.com/EvanDaniels/status/11 109027544...



Ok, improving next season just got more challening.

I wonder where exactly he expects to go?


 
SRP 
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03-27-19 03:15 PM - Post#282888    
    In response to Go Green

In the 2017-18 season I thought Jackson was the best player against Princeton. Then he disappeared this year. Injuries? Doghouse?

 
Joe.Yemly 
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March Sadness
03-27-19 06:10 PM - Post#282903    
    In response to Go Green

Jackson loss is addition by subtraction

Edited by Joe.Yemly on 03-27-19 06:11 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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03-28-19 02:57 AM - Post#282939    
    In response to Joe.Yemly

Well that's one shoe to drop. Addition by subtraction demonizes the player. Jackson was a McLaughlin recruit and a forward like Boudreaux. Coincidence, I think not.

Like I posited earlier it'll be interesting to see who returns before we pin or hopes on next season. Losing is hard. Being in the doghouse on a losing team is even harder. Something is rotten in the State of New Hampshire.

"...no excuses - only results!”


 
Go Green 
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03-28-19 12:29 PM - Post#282976    
    In response to GoBigGreenBasketball

  • GoBigGreenBasketball Said:
Well that's one shoe to drop. Addition by subtraction demonizes the player. Jackson was a McLaughlin recruit and a forward like Boudreaux. Coincidence, I think not.







Then we're in a lot of trouble given that we're bringing in several big guys for next season.



 
GoBigGreenBasketball 
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04-01-19 04:58 PM - Post#283158    
    In response to Go Green

  • Go Green Said:
  • GoBigGreenBasketball Said:
Well that's one shoe to drop. Addition by subtraction demonizes the player. Jackson was a McLaughlin recruit and a forward like Boudreaux. Coincidence, I think not.







Then we're in a lot of trouble given that we're bringing in several big guys for next season.






As always under Tommy Amaker, optimism abounds in Cambridge

Where's the Big Green projections???
"...no excuses - only results!”


 
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