Streamers
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03-26-19 06:45 PM - Post#282835
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gopenngo
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Re: Langel and Toole in the mix for the St. Joes job
03-26-19 09:55 PM - Post#282841
In response to Streamers
I don't think Toole has any shot at the job.
On the other hand, I wonder if Langel should hold out for a better opportunity. If he's not at a peak in his cycle up there in Hamilton, would it be worth waiting for a MAC or AAC opportunity in a year or two?
How does a job at one of the smallest D1 schools with sub-standard facilities (but part of the Big 5), stack up against other mid-majors?
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Penndemonium
PhD Student
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03-26-19 10:40 PM - Post#282845
In response to gopenngo
Does St. Joe's have "natural" advantages to sell within their conference? I don't know much about the A10 these days.
I think the Big 5 is a huge advantage, but then again I don't know if current players care about it as much as we
do.
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Silver Maple
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03-27-19 10:34 AM - Post#282857
In response to Penndemonium
I love St. Joes. It's an excellent educational institution, and they have a quality basketball program with a great history and pretty classy fans. All that said, I wonder if the HC job there doesn't have failure baked into right now. They conference they play in seems to be a bit of a mess, and, as has been pointed out above, I suspect that the facilities and financial resources in place are insufficient. As much affection as I feel toward the Hawks, I'm not sure it's in Langel's or Toole's interest to take that coaching job.
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palestra38
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03-27-19 10:39 AM - Post#282859
In response to Silver Maple
It would be in either of their interests as a stepping stone. It is unlikely that either will get a Power Conference job from either Robert Morris or Colgate. And both of them have ties, recruiting and otherwise, to this area. St. Joe's does have some issues though. But succeed there and there would be a Power Conference job available.
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SteveChop
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03-27-19 11:15 AM - Post#282861
In response to palestra38
One of the unknowns here is what charge was given to the new AD and what resources will be given to the new head coach as this is SJU's marquee sport. That could make a big difference in how either perceives the job. One unknown, particularly in Matt's case is how his family likes living in upstate NY - people said the same thing about Fran O'Hanlon when he first went to Lafayette yet he is still there 20 years later.
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Silver Maple
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03-27-19 12:24 PM - Post#282864
In response to SteveChop
I realize it's the marquee sport, but St. Josephs isn't a wealthy institution, and there may be limits as to how deep their pockets can be. That's why I wonder if success is possible here.
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palestra38
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03-27-19 12:34 PM - Post#282866
In response to Silver Maple
Is Loyola of Chicago any wealthier?
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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03-27-19 01:11 PM - Post#282870
In response to palestra38
Is Loyola of Chicago any wealthier?
According to Wikipedia, St. Joe's has an endowment of $280m (8,000 students), while Loyola has an endowment of $750m (16,000 students.)
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penn nation
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Langel and Toole in the mix for the St. Joes job
03-27-19 01:12 PM - Post#282871
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Loyola is bigger as well. Much more part of the fabric of Chicago than St Joe's is to Philly.
Is Loyola of Chicago any wealthier?
According to Wikipedia, St. Joe's has an endowment of $280m (8,000 students), while Loyola has an endowment of $750m (16,000 students.)
Edited by penn nation on 03-27-19 01:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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palestra38
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Re: Langel and Toole in the mix for the St. Joes job
03-27-19 01:35 PM - Post#282875
In response to penn nation
Didn't realize it was that big--it's bigger than Penn (undergraduates).
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OldBig5
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03-27-19 03:25 PM - Post#282889
In response to palestra38
St. Joes has always been a special part of the Big Five. Like Lasalle a small school without large resources. I hope they can get Langel.
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rbg
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03-28-19 03:17 PM - Post#282997
In response to OldBig5
Matt Langel did not get the St. Joe's job, but he did get a contract extension with Colgate through the 2027 season.
https://gocolgateraiders.com/news/2019/3/28/mens-b ...
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