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rbg 
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03-29-19 09:32 AM - Post#283034    

There are high major job openings up at Tennessee, Georgia Tech and Penn State.

While not at the top of the list for Tennessee, Coach Banghart's name has been mentioned by a number of sports writers.

https://www.knoxnews.com/story/sports/college/ univ...

- Rising talents
Courtney Banghart
Current job: Princeton coach

Princeton is the only head coaching job Banghart has ever had, and she's thrived in the role. She's led the Tigers to eight NCAA Tournament appearances in her 12 seasons as coach. Princeton had never made the Big Dance before hiring Banghart.

Banghart, 40, has never coached in college outside the Ivy League. Her first college job was as an assistant at Dartmouth, her alma mater.

She was named the Naismith National Coach of the Year following the 2014-15 season, when Princeton went 31-1 and reached the NCAA tournament's second round. Also in 2015, Fortune Magazine named her among the world's 50 greatest leaders. -

https://www.columbiadailyherald.com/news/20190327/...

- As far as hiring someone with a big name, some possibilities would include Louisville’s Jeff Walz, Maryland’s Brenda Frese, Gonzaga’s Lisa Fortier, Princeton’s Courtney Banghart and Oregon State’s Scott Rueck. -

https://www.chattanoogan.com/2019/3/27/387277/Dan- ...

- Solid credentials: UCLA’s Cori Close, Princeton’s Courtney Banghart, Central Florida’s Katie Abrahamson-Henderson, Rice’s Tina Langley, Drake’s Jennie Baranczyk and Gonzaga’s Lisa Fortier.

Among this group, Close has coached UCLA to four consecutive Sweet 16s and an Elite Eight last season.

Banghart was the Naismith national coach of the year in 2015, leading the Tigers to 31 victories. She has 254 victories in 12 seasons and has taken a program that had never qualified for the NCAA tournament to eight appearances in the past 10 years. -

There has been no info as of yet about possible replacements at GT and PSU.

If the Coach returns for next year, it might be worthwhile to keep an eye on Wake Forest. WF just hired a new AD, John Currie, who previously worked at Kansas State and Tennessee. After being fired at Tennessee in 12/2017, he taught a one week class at Columbia for their Sports Management Program.

At his introductory press conference, he was asked about the class he taught and mentioned that he is close friends with Robin Harris. Harris and Coach Banghart both came to the class to talk to his students.

https://247sports.com/college/wake-forest/L ongForm...

- Luckily for me, they have curriculum designers with course outcomes — modules and all this sharp academic stuff, They had two sharp women who helped me design the class. The cool thing about it was the guest speakers I was able to get to come. We had 15 grad students. It’s a seminar-type deal that went all day. We had Robin Harris, who is a really good friend who is executive director of the Ivy Group, who is like their commissioner. Her husband went to K State. Then we had Greg Sankey who came and spent an hour-and-a-half. We was awesome and is a great friend. We had Courtney Banghart, who is the women’s basketball coach at Princeton. She’s an incredible coach. -

The WF women's coach, Jen Hoover, has been there for 7 seasons and just finished her worst season at 10-20 (1-15). In her other 6 years, her best year was 17-16 (6-10) in 2015-2016 and she has not done better than 9th in the ACC.

 
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03-29-19 04:48 PM - Post#283091    
    In response to rbg

I'm sure that Coach Banghart would be a good option for many high-major openings, but I also think she will want to be at Princeton for the 2019-20 season. It will be Bella Alarie's senior year, and with the group of returnees and newcomers, Princeton should be a leading contender for the Ivy League title.

 
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03-30-19 11:56 AM - Post#283103    
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l’m betting on Banghart to be a Tiger for life. She is a great coach, role model and teacher. Sure, she could leave and make more $ elsewhere. She would instill the same values wherever she ended up. However, at Princeton she is valued for much more than her WL record. I believe that the only job that would lure her from Princeton would be something beyond coaching. She’s a perfect fit here and would make a great AD at which time she could decide whether she wanted to go beyond the U to, possibly, the NCAA (which could use her help!). But at PU she works with the Best and the Brightest.

 
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03-31-19 09:20 AM - Post#283110    
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Over the past 10 years, Coach Banghart has been the most successful women's or men's IL basketball coach by far. Her win/loss record over 10 years is 221-66 with a 16-14 season. Next year, the Tigers could be something special. Princeton took a chance hiring her and it has obviously paid off.

It is easy to understand why she is so good after listening to her weekly podcast, The Court Report. She is simply that good.

It would not surprise me if she looks at other options after next year. She is a driven person and she may simply want the challenge. If Tennessee offered her the job, very unlikely, I think that she would have to take it but hopefully, she stays a Tiger.

 
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04-09-19 08:48 AM - Post#283435    
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The Tennessee coaching position is going to Kellie Harper of Missouri State. Harper is a former Tennessee player ('95-'99), who won 3 titles playing under Pat Summit.

She coached at NC State for 4 years, but was fired in 2013. Since then, she has been at Missouri State ever since. This year, her team made it to the NCAA Tournament and she was named Kay Yow Coach of the Year.

Georgia Tech is the last high profile program without a coach. The only name that has publicly been linked to that job is Buffalo's Felisha Legette-Jack.

There is a possibility that UNC could open up, depending on the results of an internal investigation of their head coach and her staff.

 
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04-09-19 04:53 PM - Post#283468    
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Am I.crazy, or have there been more of these players-treatment issues going public in the women's game than in the men's?

 
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04-09-19 05:22 PM - Post#283478    
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  • SRP Said:
Am I.crazy, or have there been more of these players-treatment issues going public in the women's game than in the men's?



Former Dartmouth coaches Terry Dunn and Amy Patton both say "hi."

 
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04-11-19 09:09 AM - Post#283549    
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Georgia Tech ended up choosing Nell Fortner as its new women's head coach.

Fortner coached Purdue in '96-'97 (17-11 record), then led USA Basketball from '97-'00 (winning a gold at the '00 Olympics). She then went to Indiana in the WNBA from '01-'03 (42-56 record) before going to Auburn from '03-'12.

At Auburn, she was 145-106 overall and 53-65 in the SEC. Her best year was '08-'09 when she went 30-4 (12-2), won the SEC and made it to the 2nd round of the NCAA Tournament. After that, her last three years at Auburn were 44-49 (18-30) with only 1 WNIT appearance.

After leaving Auburn, she has been doing broadcasting for ESPN.

Maybe she's the right choice for GT, but it would seem that they could have done better.

Coach Banghart's name has been mentioned at Missouri State as they look to replace Kellie Harper. Hard to see that one happening, but it's interesting that her name is getting mentioned more in the coaching carousel this year than in the past.

 
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04-19-19 09:48 AM - Post#283800    
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It looks like there's a new high profile job opened up as UNC's Sylvia Hatchell has resigned following an investigation over concerns brought from the players.

https://www.newsobserver.com/sports/article2288929 ...

UNC brought in a Charlotte law firm to investigate the culture of the program. The firm found the coach made comments that were racially insensitive, pressured players and medical staff to get players back on the court before they were medically cleared. and a breakdown of connectivity between players and the coach.

Hatchell coached at UNC since 1986 and won the 1994 NCAA title. They missed the Tournament from 2016-2018 and lost in the first round this year.

I'm guessing Coach Banghart's name will pop up for this job, like it has for other high profile programs, but UNC will probably choose someone else.

 
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04-19-19 09:51 AM - Post#283802    
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Stop freightening me!

 
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04-29-19 08:38 PM - Post#283992    
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Looks like she got the North Carolina job:

https://twitter.com/BlakeDuDonis/status/1 123012021...
"Here will be an old abusing of God's patience, and the king's English."


Edited by DCAJedi on 04-29-19 08:38 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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04-29-19 09:52 PM - Post#283994    
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Alas, looks true.

https://www.wralsportsfan.com/unc-expected-to-name...

 
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04-29-19 11:15 PM - Post#283996    
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Wow!

Congrats to Coach Banghart.

It will be a bit of a challenge to right the UNC ship, but she seems up to the task.

The big question is where does Princeton go for a new coach?

 
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04-30-19 07:06 AM - Post#283998    
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Very, very happy for her!!!

Wish her nothing but the best!!!!

 
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04-30-19 07:08 AM - Post#283999    
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  • rbg Said:


The big question is where does Princeton go for a new coach?



If there is an obvious in-house candidate, that seems the safest route. Much may depend if Banghart takes anyone with her to Chapel Hill.

If they look elsewhere, it should be someone whose style is pretty close to Banghart's. Princeton has had a lot of success recently, and the players probably wouldn't react well to someone who comes in wanting to make changes and do things his/her way. That's a big reason why Joe Scott didn't work out.

 
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04-30-19 11:46 AM - Post#284009    
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UNC offered Banghart an average yearly compensation of around $700K/year, plus another possible $100-200K/year in incentives based on team academic and athletic performance.

https://twitter.com/jgravleyWRAL/status/1 123231301...

 
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04-30-19 12:17 PM - Post#284011    
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The shoe companies are the bane of college athletics.

Get rid of that and instead institute direct payments to the athletes by the universities.

 
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04-30-19 12:26 PM - Post#284013    
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As Mr. Gravely notes in his tweet, this is a jump up in pay from Princeton.

Here is the UNC announcement from the team's website:
https://goheels.com/news/2019/4/30/bangha rt-to-lea...

Hopefully, all goes well for the coach down in ACC land and she will schedule some games against Ivy teams.

 
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04-30-19 12:40 PM - Post#284015    
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  • westcoast Said:
UNC offered Banghart an average yearly compensation of around $700K/year, plus another possible $100-200K/year in incentives based on team academic and athletic performance.

https://twitter.com/jgravleyWRAL/status/1 123231301...



Going to guess that's roughly comparable to what Roy Williams technically gets from UNC as salary, but that it is only a part of his total compensation from other sources...

EDIT: Just read the tweet. Income from shoe companies are already included in the $700K. Never mind.

Edited by Go Green on 04-30-19 12:42 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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04-30-19 12:48 PM - Post#284016    
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If the players were hoping for a less-intense coach, they are likely to be disappointed.

 
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04-30-19 01:06 PM - Post#284018    
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  • SRP Said:
If the players were hoping for a less-intense coach, they are likely to be disappointed.



You can be intense without being an a-hole.

Buddy Teevens and Tom Gilmore are examples.

Edited by Go Green on 04-30-19 01:19 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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04-30-19 03:09 PM - Post#284021    
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The question is whether she can recruit. It remains to be seen. It is a different world outside the Ivy League.

 
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04-30-19 05:35 PM - Post#284029    
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True, but UNC tends to sell itself. Not like trying to adapt PU recruiting pitches to Fairfield.

 
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04-30-19 06:44 PM - Post#284030    
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  • sparman Said:
True, but UNC tends to sell itself. Not like trying to adapt PU recruiting pitches to Fairfield.



Not quite the slam dunk it used to be, after recent scandals with both the men and the women.

 
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04-30-19 07:18 PM - Post#284032    
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  • sparman Said:
True, but UNC tends to sell itself. Not like trying to adapt PU recruiting pitches to Fairfield.



I am thinking more of recruiting at Northwestern and Georgetown, relative to the rest of each league. Not to mention Richmond and American.

UNC finished 8th in the ACC. I don't think UNC is necessarily more attractive than Notre Dame, Louisville, etc. Heck, even Duke women aren't near the top.

And because of the aforementioned scandals, the academic bar will be higher than in the past for admission and graduation.

 
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04-30-19 07:22 PM - Post#284033    
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I believe the scandals have no perceptible effect. First, different coaches and staffs. Second, we have seen this story before, yet they continue to have no trouble staying competitive talent-wise.

The reality is UNC, as one of historic members of a prestige basketball league with national cachet, still represents the golden ticket for most HS players.

Meanwhile their men's program will probably continue to do atrocious things.

 
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04-30-19 07:37 PM - Post#284034    
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And it just occurred to me with the Ivy League Tournament's #1 most vocal opponent leaving for Carolina, Ivy Madness is definitely here to stay!!!



 
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04-30-19 08:12 PM - Post#284035    
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I would say:

1) Poor performance by UNC has been the past couple of years; historically they have been a strong ACC team.

2) I don't think of serious academic standards when I think of UNC athletics.

We will see.

 
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Re: Coach Banghart
04-30-19 08:44 PM - Post#284036    
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I don't think of serious academic standards when I think of UNC athletics.





Agreed, but they under pressure to restore a modicum of credibility.

 
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04-30-19 09:24 PM - Post#284037    
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Banghart's Twitter account changed likethat.

All UNC stuff. Same feeds. Ignore previous signature that said something to the like of "great staff, great players--the best".

Well, I guess something was better. Not a single word about the transition.

 
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Re: Coach Banghart
04-30-19 10:16 PM - Post#284040    
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I think that there's a lot of potential at UNC, but the expectations are also very high. People there are going to expect to be in the ACC hunt every year and to make the Final Four every five. Furthermore, during most of her tenure in the Ivies there was only one other team that was a serious threat (Harvard early on, Penn recently), whereas in the ACC there are going to be three or four highly ranked teams to contend with every year. There's also the question of whether the skills needed to recruit in the arcane Ivy situation can be successfully adapted to a Power 5 environment. That being said, this is easily the best upper-echelon opportunity any Ivy coach of either sex has had in modern times, and I have no doubt she'll have good teams there--it's just that good may not be enough in this situation.
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Re: Coach Banghart
04-30-19 10:25 PM - Post#284041    
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  • penn nation Said:
Banghart's Twitter account changed likethat.

All UNC stuff. Same feeds. Ignore previous signature that said something to the like of "great staff, great players--the best".

Well, I guess something was better. Not a single word about the transition.



In fairness, her departing statement to the media was highly appreciative.
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05-01-19 04:10 AM - Post#284045    
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Furthermore, during most of her tenure in the Ivies there was only one other team that was a serious threat (Harvard early on, Penn recently), whereas in the ACC there are going to be three or four highly ranked teams to contend with every year.


Another fair point.


 
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05-01-19 09:33 AM - Post#284052    
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Last time I wear an overpriced pair of Nikes! Would I be correct in assuming she didn’t receive a salary bump from Nike while at Princeton? Kind of hard to keep a good coach when jock powers can throw that kind of $ at them. Coach B deserves what she can get. But, this is hardly a level playing field.

 
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05-01-19 09:45 AM - Post#284053    
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Kind of hard to keep a good coach when jock powers can throw that kind of $ at them. Coach B deserves what she can get. But, this is hardly a level playing field.



Nor is it a new one.

There's a LONG list of Ivy coaches going to greener pastures with (presumably) higher paychecks. Just to throw out women's basketball, the equivalent of Banghart in the late 1980s/early 1990s was Dartmouth's Jacqueline Hullah. She left for Arizona State.

 
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05-01-19 07:53 PM - Post#284091    
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  • Go Green Said:


There's a LONG list of Ivy coaches going to greener pastures with (presumably) higher paychecks. Just to throw out women's basketball, the equivalent of Banghart in the late 1980s/early 1990s was Dartmouth's Jacqueline Hullah. She left for Arizona State.



Interesting. I looked it up-she lasted 3 years, never finishing above 9th in the conference.




 
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05-02-19 06:09 AM - Post#284095    
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Those that don't go to the Voy Board, an ESPN commentator is unimpressed with the Banghart hiring.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basket ball/stor...

 
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05-02-19 07:46 AM - Post#284096    
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Thanks for posting this. It is a far more articulate expression of my concerns. Especially regarding the recruiting "shark tank".

 
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05-02-19 01:32 PM - Post#284119    
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Here's a rebuttal to the ESPN article from a journalist who covers UNC.

https://chapelboro.com/wchl/features/sports- notebo...


 
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05-02-19 09:31 PM - Post#284127    
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Thanks for sharing. As previously stated, Coach Banghart has been the most successful IL coach, women or men, over the past 10 years by a significant margin. She came into a struggling program and got the Tiger's women on their feet within 3 years. I would be surprised if she does not turn around the Tar Heel program.

She is one of those coaches that can best be described as simply a "winner". She has gifts as to how to handle her players on and off the court. The Tar Heels will be thrilled to have hired her. I always envision the possibility that she could become the first woman to coach a men's Division I program but who knows what will happen over the next several years.

She leaves the Princeton program in very good hands based on her recruiting especially for the upcoming year but she will be very difficult, if not impossible, to replace. She obviously impressed the Tar Heel AD and administration which is no surprise to people that know her.

Some folks in the IL did not like her because she spoke her mind and was not intimidated -- wonderful quality when you can back it up.

 
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05-02-19 10:12 PM - Post#284128    
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  • bradley Said:
Thanks for sharing. As previously stated, Coach Banghart has been the most successful IL coach, women or men, over the past 10 years by a significant margin. She came into a struggling program and got the Tiger's women on their feet within 3 years. .



Much the same can be said about her counterpart at Penn on the women's side.

 
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05-02-19 11:41 PM - Post#284129    
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Those that don't go to the Voy Board, an ESPN commentator is unimpressed with the Banghart hiring.

http://www.espn.com/womens-college-basket ball/stor...



First off, I'm offended on behalf of the league; as Sparman put it on the Voy board, this is the typical bias of someone who only really pays attention to the Power 5. The Ivies have been flirting with the edge of the upper-echelon for a couple of years now, and if the progress continues they're going to break into it pretty soon; people like Voepel are ignorant of this.

Second, I will agree with Voepel that UNC was concerned with more than just pure coaching skill in this decision; however, I think that it's more about image than money. Hatchell had problems with both racial and (allegedly) sexual minorities; Banghart will have no such problems. Hatchell appears to have been emotionally abusive to her players at times, particularly with regard to playing through injuries; Banghart has no history of this whatsoever. UNC in general and the women's team specifically have been mired in the fake-classes scandal for a few years now; what better answer than to bring in someone with great success at one of the best universities in the country, who has been lauded to the skies for it by the media? I think the current circumstances make her much more attractive and less of a risk to UNC then to, say, Tennessee.

I do have to disagree with Voepel on the whole experience thing; after all, every upper-echelon coach was new to the big leagues once upon a time. I don't know if there's been any formal study of the question, but there's certainly no obvious reason to believe that being an assistant for heavy-duty programs is a more certain road to success than head coaching at lower levels. As the NC fan boards have pointed out, the Vols just hired Kellie Harper, who has no more Power 5 experience than Banghart does, and you don't see skeptical articles about them. That just seems silly to me.
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Edited by dperry on 05-02-19 11:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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05-03-19 08:56 AM - Post#284135    
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Where's the like button on here so I can agree with David? Very well said.

 
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05-03-19 11:10 AM - Post#284145    
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Mike McLaughlin is a very good coach and Penn may well have additional opportunities to win IL crowns with Banghart's depature.

He is very good while Banghart was great based on all of the stats over the past 10 years. McLaughlin may well have the opportunity for a major conference program in the not too distant future.

 
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05-03-19 08:16 PM - Post#284168    
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I wonder if Banghart will have any input on the choice of her successor.

 
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05-03-19 09:36 PM - Post#284173    
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I am sure that Banghart will give input as to the readiness of one of her Assistant Coaches Carrie Moore. I believe that Moore is probably the only internal candidate but maybe she will leave with Banghart.

I would suspect that AD will explore outside candidates. With Allarie and Littlefield plus other Banghart recruits, it is not a bad job.

The Tigers got 12 great years out of Banghart. Hopefully, the Tigers carry on based on the foundation that Banghart has created.

 
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05-04-19 10:23 AM - Post#284182    
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Mollie Marcoux has been AD for just over 5 years and the website says she's hired 12 new head coaches, several of whom have been excellent hires: Sean Driscoll (W Soccer), Carla Tagliente (Field Hockey), Cara Morey (W Hockey), to name a few who took over successful programs and have maintained or improved them. I am sure she is very focused on this hire, given the high profile CB has given the program. And I wouldn't be surprised if she already has a file in her office called "Next Head Women's B-Ball Coach," since Courtney's name has been out there for other positions over the past 3-4 years. I am optimistic she and her advisers will make a good choice.

 
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05-06-19 04:11 PM - Post#284228    
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Good review of potential candidates in Ivy Hoops Online:

https://wp.me/p5jSrX-39w

 
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05-15-19 11:12 AM - Post#284524    
    In response to Tiger81

Coach Banghart has chosen to bring Carrie Moore with her to UNC as an assistant and recruiting coordinator.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/20 19/0...

Moore was Banghart's top assistant last year.

 
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05-15-19 02:04 PM - Post#284551    
    In response to rbg

Could mark the end of the Tiger's recruiting pipeline. Basically means that the entire staff is now new as Addie Micir, Cinnamon Lister and Jessica Imhof all just completed their first year. Personally, I was hoping Moore would be the new head coach. Not unexpected however, that she left to go with Courtney.

 
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05-15-19 03:05 PM - Post#284558    
    In response to SecS3

Lister took a assistant coaching job at UC Irvine shortly after Banghart accepted the UNC job.

The Princeton staff that ended the season is now down to Micir (assistant coach) and Imhof (director of basketball operation). Both finished their first year with the team. Micir played for Princeton and was an assistant at Dartmouth for the previous 5 years.

 
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