penn nation
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05-02-19 10:12 PM - Post#284128
In response to bradley
Thanks for sharing. As previously stated, Coach Banghart has been the most successful IL coach, women or men, over the past 10 years by a significant margin. She came into a struggling program and got the Tiger's women on their feet within 3 years. .
Much the same can be said about her counterpart at Penn on the women's side.
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dperry
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Coach Banghart 05-02-19 11:41 PM - Post#284129
In response to Go Green
First off, I'm offended on behalf of the league; as Sparman put it on the Voy board, this is the typical bias of someone who only really pays attention to the Power 5. The Ivies have been flirting with the edge of the upper-echelon for a couple of years now, and if the progress continues they're going to break into it pretty soon; people like Voepel are ignorant of this.
Second, I will agree with Voepel that UNC was concerned with more than just pure coaching skill in this decision; however, I think that it's more about image than money. Hatchell had problems with both racial and (allegedly) sexual minorities; Banghart will have no such problems. Hatchell appears to have been emotionally abusive to her players at times, particularly with regard to playing through injuries; Banghart has no history of this whatsoever. UNC in general and the women's team specifically have been mired in the fake-classes scandal for a few years now; what better answer than to bring in someone with great success at one of the best universities in the country, who has been lauded to the skies for it by the media? I think the current circumstances make her much more attractive and less of a risk to UNC then to, say, Tennessee.
I do have to disagree with Voepel on the whole experience thing; after all, every upper-echelon coach was new to the big leagues once upon a time. I don't know if there's been any formal study of the question, but there's certainly no obvious reason to believe that being an assistant for heavy-duty programs is a more certain road to success than head coaching at lower levels. As the NC fan boards have pointed out, the Vols just hired Kellie Harper, who has no more Power 5 experience than Banghart does, and you don't see skeptical articles about them. That just seems silly to me.
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Edited by dperry on 05-02-19 11:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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91Quake
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Re: Coach Banghart 05-03-19 08:56 AM - Post#284135
In response to dperry
Where's the like button on here so I can agree with David? Very well said.
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bradley
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05-03-19 11:10 AM - Post#284145
In response to penn nation
Mike McLaughlin is a very good coach and Penn may well have additional opportunities to win IL crowns with Banghart's depature.
He is very good while Banghart was great based on all of the stats over the past 10 years. McLaughlin may well have the opportunity for a major conference program in the not too distant future.
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Tiger69
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05-03-19 08:16 PM - Post#284168
In response to bradley
I wonder if Banghart will have any input on the choice of her successor.
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bradley
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05-03-19 09:36 PM - Post#284173
In response to Tiger69
I am sure that Banghart will give input as to the readiness of one of her Assistant Coaches Carrie Moore. I believe that Moore is probably the only internal candidate but maybe she will leave with Banghart.
I would suspect that AD will explore outside candidates. With Allarie and Littlefield plus other Banghart recruits, it is not a bad job.
The Tigers got 12 great years out of Banghart. Hopefully, the Tigers carry on based on the foundation that Banghart has created.
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Albert08
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05-04-19 10:23 AM - Post#284182
In response to bradley
Mollie Marcoux has been AD for just over 5 years and the website says she's hired 12 new head coaches, several of whom have been excellent hires: Sean Driscoll (W Soccer), Carla Tagliente (Field Hockey), Cara Morey (W Hockey), to name a few who took over successful programs and have maintained or improved them. I am sure she is very focused on this hire, given the high profile CB has given the program. And I wouldn't be surprised if she already has a file in her office called "Next Head Women's B-Ball Coach," since Courtney's name has been out there for other positions over the past 3-4 years. I am optimistic she and her advisers will make a good choice.
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Tiger81
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05-06-19 04:11 PM - Post#284228
In response to Albert08
Good review of potential candidates in Ivy Hoops Online:
https://wp.me/p5jSrX-39w
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rbg
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05-15-19 11:12 AM - Post#284524
In response to Tiger81
Coach Banghart has chosen to bring Carrie Moore with her to UNC as an assistant and recruiting coordinator.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaw/20 19/0...
Moore was Banghart's top assistant last year.
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SecS3
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05-15-19 02:04 PM - Post#284551
In response to rbg
Could mark the end of the Tiger's recruiting pipeline. Basically means that the entire staff is now new as Addie Micir, Cinnamon Lister and Jessica Imhof all just completed their first year. Personally, I was hoping Moore would be the new head coach. Not unexpected however, that she left to go with Courtney.
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rbg
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05-15-19 03:05 PM - Post#284558
In response to SecS3
Lister took a assistant coaching job at UC Irvine shortly after Banghart accepted the UNC job.
The Princeton staff that ended the season is now down to Micir (assistant coach) and Imhof (director of basketball operation). Both finished their first year with the team. Micir played for Princeton and was an assistant at Dartmouth for the previous 5 years.
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rbg
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09-29-20 05:34 PM - Post#314251
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ESPN lists UNC as having the #2 recruiting class for 2021.
https://www.espn.com/womens-college-basket ball/sto...
2. North Carolina Tar Heels
Highest-ranked commit: W Teonni Key (No. 9)
Courtney Banghart signed an eye-opening class in her first go-round in Chapel Hill, and she might have already outdone herself with her second signing class. Key has good ball skills, a strong mid-range jumper and gets on the glass on both ends. No. 17 Kayla McPherson is an explosive guard with deep range from 3. No. 18 Morasha Wiggins has a terrific blend of size and skill, while No. 20 Destiny Adams improved her rebounding and defensive skills over the past year.
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rbg
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03-04-21 11:27 PM - Post#321360
In response to rbg
UNC was the #8 seed in the ACC Tournament and lost by 11 to #9 Wake Forest this afternoon.
UNC is now 13-10 and 8-9 in the ACC, The most recent ESPN Bracketology was on 3/2 and had UNC as a #9 seed.
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bradley
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03-05-21 08:34 AM - Post#321363
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Disappointing loss that may knock UNC out of this year's tournament but the good news for Coach Banghart is that she has the #2 2021 recruiting class just in front of UCONN. I always wondered if Littlefield would join Coach Banghart for her final year but I doubt it now based on UNC's recruiting class.
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Albert08
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03-05-21 10:39 AM - Post#321385
In response to bradley
If I had to guess, my guess would be that Carlie ends up at a Big Ten school, maybe even University of Iowa.
And a quick check of her twitter feed informed me that Taylor Baur is a grad transfer at Georgetown this year:
https://guhoyas.com/sports/womens-basketb all/roste...
She's gotten a lot of playing time on a pretty weak team, and has started every game since the end of January.
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Go Green
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03-05-21 11:02 AM - Post#321392
In response to bradley
Disappointing loss that may knock UNC out of this year's tournament but the good news for Coach Banghart is that she has the #2 2021 recruiting class just in front of UCONN.
So you don't think Dartmouth has any chance of asking her to come home?
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sparman
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03-05-21 12:09 PM - Post#321400
In response to Go Green
Dartmouth can ask all they want.
It could have approached Carla Berube a long time ago, too.
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rbg
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03-05-21 01:16 PM - Post#321416
In response to sparman
Iowa has a first year guard who is 2nd in the nation in scoring. Certainly would be a good idea to have Littlefield share the backcourt.
Banghart had a good recruiting class this year and an even better one for next year. Her team had definite problems due to its youth this season. Maryland had a lot of youth, as well, and relied on Katie Benzan's experience to help the team. In an important third year at UNC, the coach could consider brining in one of her best players to help provide some additional leadership.
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SecS3
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03-06-21 12:07 PM - Post#321488
In response to Go Green
I doubt it. Despite being from New Hampshire, she's made it pretty clear that she doesn't like the cold and wasn't going anywhere north of New Jersey. You can dream though.
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Tiger69
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03-06-21 01:40 PM - Post#321493
In response to SecS3
I would bet that if Coach B ever retreated from the big circuit, she might consider returning to Princeton as she established a community of friends/associates here over her 10+ years. Of course that would depend on our coaching situation at the time. Hopefully our current coach is happy and will be here for a long time.
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