T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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05-29-19 10:22 AM - Post#284837
In response to rbg
BTW, the day that Jeff Goodman tweeted that Oni told Jones he would be staying in the draft, Goodman later sent word that Oni parted ways with agent Harrison Gaines. He has hired Jason Glushon of Glushon Sports Management as his new agent.
Just more anti-Penn bias. When will it end?
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palestra38
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05-29-19 10:25 AM - Post#284838
In response to rbg
On a Penn note, Harrison Gaines recently lost Lonzo and the Ball family as clients and only has 2 players as clients, both playing in China. Looks like he will have to start over, and Oni felt he needed someone with a higher profile.
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Silver Maple
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05-29-19 10:45 AM - Post#284844
In response to palestra38
I have a feeling that Lonzo is a client you're better off without.
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james
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05-29-19 02:56 PM - Post#284860
In response to Silver Maple
I would be surprised if he pulled out based on what I have seen and heard. It’s disappointing that he hasn’t put a jolt in his draft stock upward.
But the issues are structural it seems. His age and level of competition. He is always at risk of a bad marquee game.
He has the size and athleticism to compete at any level of skill development continues. So at the end day at nearly 23 next year its a risk to stay if you are looking for the best chance at the best pro career you can have.
so my guess is he has done a good job of maximizing his perception now. I wasn’t at his workouts but from what I can hear and see. That makes his draft stock still tenuous but I don’t see it changing next year.
I hope I am wrong for yale’s sake but I hope for the best for him either way.
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PennFan10
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05-29-19 04:01 PM - Post#284864
In response to james
He performed very well at the combine. He may have put an upward “jolt†in his draft stock. No team is going to say that though. If a team was impressed by him they are going to sit and wait and see if he is there. I wouldn’t be surprised to see him go in the middle third of the 2nd round
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james
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05-29-19 04:37 PM - Post#284865
In response to PennFan10
he definitely played well.
Meanwhile Makai carved up his latest pro day. Baller alert!
Looks like 19 yr old legs again
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Pantone291
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05-30-19 08:31 AM - Post#284877
In response to james
According to Yahoo Sports Oni is staying in the draft...
https://sports.yahoo.com/2019-nba-draft-early- entr...
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rbg
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06-18-19 12:57 PM - Post#285210
In response to Pantone291
Some recent mock drafts from the last few days:
ESPN - #51 Celtics
CBS Sports - #51 Celtics
SI - #53 Utah
The Ringer - #58 Golden State
Would be something if he ended up with the Celtics and assistant coach Jerome Allen.
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bradley
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06-19-19 03:03 PM - Post#285240
In response to rbg
I always believed that Oni would stay in the draft but I am not sure if he will be drafted -- hope that he is selected.
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weinhauers_ghost
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06-20-19 11:35 AM - Post#285252
In response to bradley
I always believed that Oni would stay in the draft but I am not sure if he will be drafted -- hope that he is selected.
Sam Vecenie in The Athletic has Oni going undrafted. ESPN has him going to Philly with the #54 pick.
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rbg
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06-20-19 12:28 PM - Post#285255
In response to weinhauers_ghost
I thought I had read that an undrafted player can contact his AD by 5:00 pm the Monday after the draft and request to come back to the school.
Is that correct?
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PennFan10
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06-20-19 02:32 PM - Post#285261
In response to rbg
I thought I had read that an undrafted player can contact his AD by 5:00 pm the Monday after the draft and request to come back to the school.
Is that correct?
That was a proposed change that was never officially adopted.
https://www.mlive.com/wolverines/2019/04/no -an-und...
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penn nation
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Oni to Enter NBA Draft 06-21-19 12:33 AM - Post#285268
In response to weinhauers_ghost
To GS at 58! Mazel Tov!
Enjoy the Bay Area for a few precious seconds...then time to head a bit further east.
Edited by penn nation on 06-21-19 12:37 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Chip Bayers
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06-21-19 12:38 AM - Post#285269
In response to penn nation
To the Jazz you mean—they traded the pick.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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06-21-19 01:23 AM - Post#285271
In response to Chip Bayers
Congrats to Oni, Yale, and the Ivy League.
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rbg
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06-21-19 08:57 AM - Post#285280
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
The Jazz traded the #23 pick to get Mike Conley from the Grizzlies and gave up Jae Crowder, Grayson Allen and Kyle Korver. They picked up three mid-majors in the late 2nd round - Charleston's Jarrell Brantley at #50, Hofstra's Justin Wright-Foreman at #53 and Oni at #58.
FYI - Jazz GM Justin Zanik was promoted from the assistant GM role in May. He started his career as an agent.
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/06/21/jaz z-wind...
- Brantley was among the final six players to work out for the Jazz, as part of a group at Zions Bank Basketball Campus this past Saturday. Wright-Foreman also worked out for the Jazz, on May 26 — in the same group as draftees Dylan Windler, Carsen Edwards, KZ Okpala, and Ignas Brazdeikis. Oni did not come to Salt Lake City, but the team got a chance to interview him at the NBA Combine in Chicago. -
- Oni is a 6-6, 210-pound shooting guard who averaged 17.1 points, 6.3 rebounds, and 3.6 assists in his junior year at Yale. He was a back-to-back Ivy League Player of the Year. The Northridge, Calif., native shot 44.1% from the field and 37.1% from deep.
"What we really like is his defensive ability, even though he was in a main-scoring role at Yale,†Zanik said. “Open-shot-making, being able to contest and use his length, I think he can be a defender at first and open shot-maker as he develops, and then working with and without the ball.â€
After the team sent out three bench players in the Conley deal, Brantley, Wright-Foreman, and Oni will attempt to be the first second-round picks selected by the Jazz to actually play for the team since Joel Bolomboy in 2016.
“With our roster — and again, we'll continue to be aggressive — it's open,†Zanik said. “There's a chance we open a lot of roster spots. What we tell our guys is ‘Come in, come compete, and we'll have a developmental path for you.’†-
https://www.nba.com/jazz/news/utah-jazz-a dd-scorin...
- What stood out about Miye Oni when you watched him and interviewed him at the NBA Combine?
“What we like is his defensive ability, even though he was a main scorer at Yale. His open shooting making, being able to contest shots and use his length. I think he can develop. A defender at first and an open shot maker as he develops.â€
All three of these players come from smaller conferences. Does that matter?
“Whenever you move up a level, there’s always a transition. If you work hard and you have a skillset, you have a game that translates, we have a coaching staff that can develop you. … There’s a saying that if you play in college and you’re good enough, the NBA will find you. These guys were all known commodities. They’ve all had successful careers. It wasn’t something that they just came onto the radar. Maybe on a public level or media level. But from a scouting level, we’ve known about these guys for a while.â€
All three of these players had multiple years of college experience. How important was that for you?
“It wasn’t that these guys had to play four years in college. It was more that their games became more mature, so we saw that each one of them had—while all needing developing in their transition to the NBA—these skillsets that we saw that could translate. Now, how much? How long? There’s a chance that we can have a lot of roster flexibility going forward and we will continue to be aggressive in free agency with that coming up. But these guys give us a chance to develop. Hopefully they’ll all play in summer league and be with our program going forward.â€
How do you see these players fitting into the roster?
“With our roster—and we’ll continue to be aggressive—it’s open. There’s a chance that we open a lot of roster spots. What we tell our guys is come in, compete, and we’ll have a developmental path for you. That could be a number of ways. That could be on the roster, the G-League, two-way contracts. Any of those things are on the table. Let’s get you in here, let’s get our coaching staff around you, have a good summer and play and we’ll work with them to figure out the best development path.†-
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rbg
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07-02-19 08:36 AM - Post#285507
In response to rbg
Oni played his 1st game in the Salt Lake City Summer League:
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/07/02/tri ple-te...
- Miye Oni only took three shots all game, all 3-point shots. He ended up with two points from the free-throw line, but a very ugly -32 on the night in his 26 minutes on the floor. Given that no other Jazzman finished with more than a -13, that’s hard to do. Oni was more of a physical specimen in the Ivy League, but at this level, he looked smaller than his Grizzlies counterparts. Obviously, he’ll do better to find a way to impact the game in future summer league performances — it’s hard to get be less impactful — and I’ll be curious to see if he can find his NBA skill to hang a hat on. -
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james
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07-02-19 12:18 PM - Post#285511
In response to rbg
The game was on espn2.
I thought he played well. Was very active on defense. 2 bs, 2 steals, rebounded well and stayed in control. Jazz offense was a mess mostly bc they couldnt hit shots to space the floor. he had 1-2 open 3s depending on how you classified them. 1 was a scramble end of shot clock.
the =/- doesnt mean much to me in this game.
the most impt piece is he looked the part out there. The next challenge is developing an nba skill on offense. the defense was good.
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rbg
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07-04-19 10:01 AM - Post#285588
In response to james
Oni did much better in his second game.
He had a team-high 17 points, 6 rebounds, 2 assists, 2 steals and 1 block.
He started out 4-4 with 3 three pointers and 11 points in the 1st quarter. He shot 5-12 for the game, including 4-8 from three.
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900078243/thi r...
https://www.sltrib.com/sports/2019/07/04/jaz z-rook...
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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07-08-19 11:05 AM - Post#285672
In response to rbg
Some highlights. https://www.nba.com/jazz/video/teams/jazz /2019/07/...
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