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Username Post: Chris Mullin out at St John's        (Topic#23010)
palestra38 
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04-09-19 02:50 PM - Post#283456    

https://nypost.com/2019/04/08/chris-mull in-to-step...

Since this is a Penn board, we did see Mullin as a freshman in our 66-56 loss to St. Johns at the Nassau Colliseum in 1982--Avery Rawlings 6-18 and Paul Little 4-13 did us in.

Box Score: https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/boxscores/198...

 
PeteD 
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04-17-19 09:55 PM - Post#283736    
    In response to palestra38

James Jones rumored to be a candidate to replace Mullin.

 
rbg 
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04-17-19 11:05 PM - Post#283737    
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https://www.nhregister.com/colleges/article/Yale -m...

- Jones has interviewed for the St. John’s job that was recently vacated by Chris Mullin. He had yet to be offered the job as of Wednesday, according to Adam Zagoria of SNY.tv. -

Jones is certainly up for the challenge, but I would think Cluess would be the logical pick with his connections to St. John's and the area.

 
rbg 
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04-17-19 11:12 PM - Post#283738    
    In response to rbg

This tweet from a NY Post writer was from yesterday afternoon.

https://twitter.com/NYPost_Brazille/statu s/1118263...

- Sources confirmed Yale's James Jones' has spoken to St. John's about job, as @AdamZagoria reported, but doesn't appear to be serious. There were no interviews today obviously as St. John's waited on Porter Moser. #sjubb -

 
rbg 
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04-18-19 08:50 AM - Post#283742    
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Sports Illustrated is now reporting that Iona's Cluess has removed his name from consideration for the St. John's job.

https://www.si.com/college-basketball/20 19/04/18/i...

This is going to make St. John's alum and donor Mike Repole (founder of Vitaminwater) & WFAN's Mike Francesa even more frustrated with the leadership of St. John's than they were yesterday afternoon.

https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2019/4/17/184127...

NY Post's Zach Braziller wrote that James Jones will be interviewing with St. John's today. Another potential candidate is Oklahoma State's Mike Boynton. Boynton has been leading OSU for 2 years and is 33-35 (13-23 Big 12). He was an assistant at OSU on Brad Underwood's staff after the two came over from Stephen F. Austin. Boynton is from Brooklyn and went to Bishop Laughlin High School.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/18/another-da y-another-...

- It appears Yale coach James Jones is interested. He has spoken to St. John’s about the opening and is expected to interview on Thursday with Cragg for the last high-major coaching opening in the country, sources said. Jones, who made $500,000 last year according to a source, has guided Yale to two NCAA Tournaments in 20 seasons, but does own a 310-273 record there.

The 55-year-old is a Long Island native, who attended Albany, so he does have some local ties, but a source was unsure if he would leave Yale — considering his recent success there, winning at least 22 games three of the past five years — and the massive rebuilding job he would be inheriting at St. John’s. He’s also never coached at the high-major level, even as an assistant. -


 
penn nation 
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04-18-19 11:28 AM - Post#283746    
    In response to rbg

No-one seems to want it--Porter Moser decided to stay at Loyola.



 
mobrien 
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04-18-19 11:41 AM - Post#283747    
    In response to penn nation

St. John's has now been turned down by Porter Moser, Ryan Odom, and Tim Cluess. It's become such a disaster that it's pushing all of St. John's remaining players away — guys are either turning pro, transferring, or de-committing. So whoever does take the job is looking at a complete and total rebuild.

Cluess is the most painful one for St. John's. He played for them (though he transferred away), his brothers played for them, and he's had a ton of success next door at Iona — six NCAA tourneys in nine years. The only slight negative is that, at 60 years old, he's not young, but he should have been the obvious target from the get-go. There aren't many coaches this successful who wouldn't look at St. John's as just a stepping stone, but he was the one. And their incompetence scared him off.

James Jones should run, not walk, in the other direction.

 
mrjames 
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04-18-19 11:51 AM - Post#283748    
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So, sometimes when people withdraw from a search, it’s because they don’t want the job. Sometimes, it’s because they sense someone else already has the lead and will take it...

 
james 
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04-18-19 12:14 PM - Post#283751    
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I love james and played for him. But if you get a long term deal at $2ish mm to go home and coach at msg why not go? There are some ifs in there granted

Who gives a damn about next year? It’s a write off.

He loves being at Yale. I know this. But I wouldn’t blame him if he gets this offer at rumored terms. No one will.

 
james 
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04-18-19 12:17 PM - Post#283752    
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I wonder who they would replace James with. My guess is Kingsley.

I hope like hell he doesn’t go but Matt has done a great job and is likely ready to give it a go.

 
rbg 
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04-18-19 12:19 PM - Post#283753    
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Matt Norlander tweeted that former Arkansas coach Mike Anderson is a candidate of interest, in addition to Jones and Boynton.

SB Nation's Rumble in the Garden site has some profiles of the people in the running:

Anderson
https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2019/4/18/184848...

Boynton:
https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2019/4/12/183078...

Jones:
https://www.rumbleinthegarden.com/2019/4/18/184126...

 
james 
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04-18-19 12:21 PM - Post#283754    
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feels like the duke connection at St. John’s put James in this position.
Coach k also vociferous in his praise for James when they played and how well coached they are.
My guess is amaker also validated.



 
mobrien 
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04-18-19 12:49 PM - Post#283756    
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Interesting. Well, I guess I can see it from Jones' perspective. If Oni stays in the draft, he'd be looking at a partial rebuild, which, considering that he's already 55, means that this would probably be his best chance to make the jump. Not to mention that he's from Long Island, and St. John's would be offering him significantly more money than he's currently making.

He's a heck of a coach, and if anyone could succeed at St. John's, he could. Still, there's a lot of risk involved. You really only get four years to turn a program around before the fans and administration get antsy, even though they say they'll discount that first year when the cupboard will be completely bare.

 
james 
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04-18-19 12:56 PM - Post#283757    
    In response to mobrien

agreed. There is risk involved no doubt. And he loves yale. But I don’t think he could say no if they offer 2mm over 4+ yrs. that’s good money after tax and sometimes you just have to take a risk. Financially not sure I even see the risk. He’d have to coach at Yale for another 15 yrs to make that.

I hope I am wrong for our sake.



 
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04-18-19 01:50 PM - Post#283761    
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From the tea leaves in those links, it sounds like Jones is the leading candidate, largely due to his lower salary requirements. The Yale pedigree may be a wash--admin probably loves it, but they must know it'll be a negative with the hard-core fan base.

 
rbg 
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04-18-19 02:49 PM - Post#283766    
    In response to SRP

Zac Braziller (NY Post) tweeted within the hour:

The expectation, according to sources, is if St. John's offers Yale's James Jones the vacant head-coaching position he would say yes. After 20 years in Ivy League, would be ready for a new challenge.

 
mrjames 
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04-18-19 02:51 PM - Post#283767    
    In response to rbg

  • Quote:
So, sometimes when people withdraw from a search, it’s because they don’t want the job. Sometimes, it’s because they sense someone else already has the lead and will take it...



 
mobrien 
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04-18-19 10:19 PM - Post#283785    
    In response to mrjames

Looks like it's not going to be Jones, after all. Latest report is that Mike Anderson is going to take the job.

https://nypost.com/2019/04/18/st-johns-o n-the-verg...

 
rbg 
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04-19-19 09:09 AM - Post#283796    
    In response to mobrien

While it would have been a nice pay raise for Jones, given how things have gone at St. John's over the last few weeks and many years, it probably might not have worked out well for him in the long run.

There are worse things than being a successful long serving head coach, making a reported $500,000/year at one of the nation's premier institutions and getting a shot at the NCAA Tournament each year.

 
bradley 
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04-19-19 07:43 PM - Post#283822    
    In response to rbg

Unless Coach Jones interviewed for the SJU job in order to get leverage with Yale's administration, it says a lot that he intervviewed for the SJU job. Maybe not this year but perhaps next year.

In all likelihood, he would be an outstanding big time coach. He has many attributes and if I was an AD, he would be an extremely interesting candidate.

Over time, I would not be surprised if current IL coaches receive opportunities in the not too distant future.

 
Silver Maple 
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04-20-19 10:46 AM - Post#283826    
    In response to bradley

I wouldn't be surprised to see Jones move on either. But I think taking the St. John's job would have been extremely risky. He can almost certainly do better.

 
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