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Username Post: Around the Patriot League 2019-20        (Topic#23164)
Bison137 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2019-20
08-18-19 04:25 PM - Post#287013    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

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Holy Cross starting PG Caleb Green has entered the transfer portal. I'm not sure if this means he is definitely gone, however, as he could just be exploring his options while he waits to see who the new coach will be. That decision should be announced within about two weeks. (Note: July 11-14 is a big recruiting period, so it would make sense for HC to make a decision within 10 days.)




HC starting forward Jacob Grandison has now entered the transfer portal. He started every game the past 1.5 years. Caleb Green and Grandison were the top two Crusaders in minutes played.



Grandison is transferring to Illinois





Finally ending a 7-week saga.





 
res 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2019-20
08-18-19 08:25 PM - Post#287015    
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Finally ending a 7-week saga.





Yes, though not apparently the 21 page thread discussing it -- a good portion of which seems to be dedicated to people who profess to not care a whit what he does.

I also found hchoops reaction somewhat odd. Earlier on, I posted that it wouldn't surprise me if he had gotten a look from Cal, as Cal is not exactly Wooden's UCLA -- or today's Colgate. Hoops was unusually dismissive and stated, in more than one post, that Grandison wouldn't even get a thought from any P5 school. So much for that.




 
Bison137 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2019-20
08-18-19 09:54 PM - Post#287018    
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I also found hchoops reaction somewhat odd. Earlier on, I posted that it wouldn't surprise me if he had gotten a look from Cal, as Cal is not exactly Wooden's UCLA -- or today's Colgate. Hoops was unusually dismissive and stated, in more than one post, that Grandison wouldn't even get a thought from any P5 school. So much for that.






Yes, he made multiple posts indicating that he thought Cal must be one of the top teams in the nation, even though - as you pointed out - it has been quite weak the last few years. FAR worse than Bucknell each of the past two years.






 
Maryland Bison 
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08-22-19 01:50 PM - Post#287165    
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Baltimore Sun article on 6-11 Loyola freshman Santi Aldama.

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basket ...

 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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08-22-19 02:12 PM - Post#287166    
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I was watching some highlights of Aldama and thought he looked pretty skinny. That article has him listed at 6’11” 210. For comparison Muscala was skinny his freshman year and was listed at 6’10” 223. Listed heights and weights can’t be trusted as fact but he might get banged around down low until he can put on more weight.

 
Bison137 
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10-29-19 09:17 PM - Post#289254    
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The Brett Nelson era started in Worcester tonight with an unimpressive 11-point win over a weak D2 Assumption team that was picked to finish 6th out of 7 teams in its division. They were 8-20 last year.

HC got a good game out of their top player, Austin Butler, who had 20 points and 11 boards. Soph SF Joe Pridgen had 17 points and their freshman PG Drew Lowder played reasonably well. In total their offense played fairly well, albeit against mediocre defense, but there were problems in other areas.

To begin, Assumption scored 1.00 points per possession - way too high to allow a relatively weak D2 squad - and would have had more if they hadn't been 4-17 on threes. Also HC had 15 turnovers, only 6 of which were caused by steals. HC got 75% of available defensive rebounds - which would be fairly good against a better team - but only had 22% of available defensive rebounds. And finally, HC only forced 8 turnovers - against a team that averaged 13 tpg against its D2 rivals last year.

Probably about the result that might have been expected given the caliber of the opponent and HC's status as an almost unanimous pick for last place - along with adjusting to a new coach.




 
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10-31-19 11:44 PM - Post#289404    
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Lafayette's CG Alex Petrie will miss the season with what has been called a "medical condition". The fact that it was not called an "injury" or something similar suggests to me that it might be some sort of illness. Hopefully he will have a full recovery.

Petrie was the 2018 PL ROY, but in the 2018-19 season he saw his playing time fall and lost his starting job. Presumably it was due to a combination of his mediocre defense and a decline in his shooting percentage.

https://www.goleopards.com/news/2019/10/31/mens- ba...


Lafayette was generally picked for 8th in the PL - ahead of Navy and HC - but this may drop them down to about the same level as Navy.




 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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11-01-19 10:15 PM - Post#289498    
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At the half tonight, Loyola trailed neighborhood rival Johns Hopkins 45-26, but came back to win 80-77.

Highly touted Loyola freshman Santi Aldama didn't play.

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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11-02-19 05:47 PM - Post#289513    
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American University tweets:

Sa'eed Nelson will not participate in AU’s first game at Siena on Tuesday due to NCAA rules regarding summer league participation. He will suit up for Friday’s home opener vs. William & Mary.

"It was an unfortunate, minor oversight by our program. We have educated our players on the rules, we accept the NCAA’s decision, and we look forward to having Sa’eed back on the court on Friday.” - AU head coach Mike Brennan
https://twitter.com/AU_MBasketball/status /11907394...

 
DoCtoR62 
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11-02-19 05:48 PM - Post#289514    
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At the half tonight, Loyola trailed neighborhood rival Johns Hopkins 45-26, but came back to win 80-77.

Highly touted Loyola freshman Santi Aldama didn't play.


Yes, he had a knee procedure. It's my understanding he will miss at least the first month, meaning no sooner than mid-December.

 
Maryland Bison 
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Around the Patriot League 2019-20
11-06-19 04:03 PM - Post#290093    
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Baltimore Sun article on Adama's knee surgery. It says he's out "indefinitely".

https://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/college/basket ...

Edited by Maryland Bison on 11-06-19 04:04 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison137 
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11-07-19 10:29 AM - Post#290196    
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More on Aldama. I see that a Spanish newspaper yesterday has a quote from him saying he is out "three to four months". I speak no Spanish but am assuming that Google correctly translated a phrase that simple.

https://www.laprovincia.es/cb-gran-canaria/2019/1 1...


If this report is accurate, and it appears it is, he could be out until some time in February. Under normal circumstances, at that point they might well try to convince the doctor that he needs to be shut down for the year - so that they can get a 5th year of eligibility for him. But in his case, I would bet against him being at Loyola for five years, so they might just decide to play him when he is ready - even if it is only for a few weeks at the end.




 
DoCtoR62 
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11-07-19 11:43 AM - Post#290201    
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Prior to what procedure he had, the hope was that he'd return to the lineup before league play. It appears they learned there was more damage than they had hoped during the surgery. I agree that he is not a 5-year candidate. That said, there is the risk of losing him all together if Loyola gives the appearance of rushing him back for the playoffs. He has a professional career in front of him, and his handlers will likely be involved.

 
Bison137 
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Around the Patriot League 2019-20
11-07-19 02:30 PM - Post#290223    
    In response to DoCtoR62

Here's an item from Colgate's Game Notes talking about last spring's championship game:

" The 1,821 in attendance was the first sellout in the modern era since the gym had been renamed Cotterell Court in 1966."


It's hard to believe there is any school in the nation with worse fan support for basketball than Colgate. Did not even sell out one game in an 1821-seat gym for three years of Adonal Foyle. Or for their 1994 PL co-champs that featured PL POY Tucker Neale. Or for any regular-season games or PL quarters and semis for the 2018-19 co-champs. Or for the 2nd place 2017-18 team? Or for any number of home games that they played vs Syracuse in the 60's and 70's.

In fact, prior to their sellout in the championship game - which was aided by a large Bucknell contingent - the only sellout ever in Cotterell was to watch the UConn women play there for Breanna Stewart's homecoming. And that was largely UConn fans.





 
jkrun80 
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11-07-19 03:49 PM - Post#290231    
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Just saw that Colgate blew a 19 point lead against NJIT but came back to win by 5.

 
Bison137 
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11-07-19 04:06 PM - Post#290237    
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Two notes on that game: first, transfer Nelly, Cummings, who came over from Bowling Green, had a really good game as the new starter in Colgate’s backcourt. Secondly, Colgate appears to have very little depth this year. An injury or two could really hurt them. Their freshman class does not look good, and their transfer from Houston Baptist is having to sit out this year.




 
Scotty-14 
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11-07-19 04:47 PM - Post#290252    
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Another transfer with a big night was American's Jamir Harris. American showed a complete lack of defensive ability Tuesday night but Harris and Nelson will be a tough backcourt to defend this winter

 
DoCtoR62 
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Re: Around the Patriot League 2019-20
11-07-19 05:09 PM - Post#290257    
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  • Bison137 Said:
Here's an item from Colgate's Game Notes talking about last spring's championship game:

" The 1,821 in attendance was the first sellout in the modern era since the gym had been renamed Cotterell Court in 1966."


It's hard to believe there is any school in the nation with worse fan support for basketball than Colgate. Did not even sell out one game in an 1821-seat gym for three years of Adonal Foyle. Or for their 1994 PL co-champs that featured PL POY Tucker Neale. Or for any regular-season games or PL quarters and semis for the 2018-19 co-champs. Or for the 2nd place 2017-18 team? Or for any number of home games that they played vs Syracuse in the 60's and 70's.

In fact, prior to their sellout in the championship game - which was aided by a large Bucknell contingent - the only sellout ever in Cotterell was to watch the UConn women play there for Breanna Stewart's homecoming. And that was largely UConn fans.




From the Baltimore Sun, March 1995:

By Alan Goldstein
Sun Staff Writer
HAMILTON. N.Y. - A month ago in Annapolis, the Navy basketball team limited Colgate's all-time scoring leader, Tucker Neale, to eight points and neutralized 6-foot-10 freshman sensation Adonal Foyle in a 42-point rout.

But it was an entirely different story in the Patriot League tournament championship game yesterday as a boisterous, standing-room crowd of 3,100 tested the capacity of cozy Cotterell Court.


Those Colgate teams were coached by the late Jack Bruen, a wonderful man. I remember stories from him about a handful of games being shown via closed circuit TV in local bars. Per NCAA stats, Colgate's average attendance in 1996 was 2,395.

A pretty weak effort by their sports information department. Probably some young guy/gal who believes Colgate is currently going through the golden ages of its program.


 
Bison137 
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11-07-19 05:38 PM - Post#290259    
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Thanks. I stand corrected - or rather Colgate's SID does.

What is puzzling is that the current capacity of Cotterell, as listed in multiple places including Colgate's website, is 1750. Before they added chairbacks on the one side, it might have had a capacity slightly over 2000. There isn't much room for standing room, and it hasn't really been renovated in about 50 years. So how did they fit in 2500 or 3000+ people? Colgate has had a history of exaggerating attendances a lot, so I wonder how legitimate the 2395 or the 3100 are.




 
DoCtoR62 
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11-07-19 08:46 PM - Post#290281    
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Here is a youtube video of 1996 PL championship game. Boxscore listed attendance as 2236 for this game vs Holy Cross. Ted Bettencourt was starting PG for HC.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvMR_A6p0j4

 
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