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BisonRoadWarrior 
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07-17-19 01:31 PM - Post#286005    

Boston University (BU)
vs Northeastern
vs SUNY Poly
at Vermont
vs New Hampshire
at South Carolina
at West Virginia
vs Northern Colorado at the Cancun Challenge
vs Gardner-Webb or Tennessee-Martin in Cancun
at George Washington
at Binghamton
vs Dartmouth
at UMass Lowell
at Merrimack

They're also doing a summer trip to Spain
https://goterriers.com/news/2019/7/17/mens-b asketb...


 
Bison137 
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07-17-19 02:59 PM - Post#286013    
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Note that their games at South Carolina and at West Virginia are also part of the Cancun Challenge. Playing in a four-game MTE allows them to have 13 OOC games.

With the exception of those two P6 conference teams plus Northeastern and Vermont, that is a weak schedule. They should run up a good record heading into PL play. They will likely be favorites in nine of the 13 games. I wouldn't want to see Bucknell playing that weak a schedule, but I wouldn't mind seeing a few very beatable teams among the 13 Bison games.




 
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08-05-19 12:10 PM - Post#286752    
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Colgate released their non-conference schedule. It should give them a good test.

https://gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?schedul...

 
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08-05-19 12:56 PM - Post#286757    
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Definitely a challenging schedule - with four big name opponents: Auburn, Syracuse, Clemson, and Cinci.

One thing that is strange is an incongruity with the Legends Classic. That tournament format is always four games, where the mid-majors play at two strong opponents and then play two more games vs other mid-majors at one site. When the Bison played in it in 2014, for example, they played at Michigan and Villanova, followed by games vs Toledo and MD Eastern Shore in Detroit. The Legends press release this year suggested the same format, with the four power teams being Auburn, Wisconsin, New Mexico, and Richmond - a somewhat weaker group than in prior years.

By playing four games in this official multi-team event (MTE), that allows Colgate to play 13 OOC games, which is what is shown on their schedule. But what is puzzling is that they only have one game vs the four power teams (Auburn). If that is the case, there would have to have been a late change to the Legends format. But the four power teams haven't changed, according to the tournament's website. So one guess is that for some reason Colgate couldn't find a date that worked with the power team they were supposed to visit, and the tournament substituted another team as a one-game member of the tournament to get Colgate four games. Maybe Cortland? (Note that when the Bison played in the 2K Classic - which is similar to the Legends- in 2012 that West Alabama was a one-game substitute.) OR the other option is that Colgate is simply playing only three games in the Legends Classic, instead of the normal four, and is calling their game with Cortland State an exhibition. To have an exhibition more than two weeks after the season begins would be unusual, but it is allowed under the rules - as long as the opponent is not a D1 school.




 
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08-05-19 01:01 PM - Post#286758    
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When the Bison played in it in 2014, for example, they played at Michigan and Villanova, followed by games vs Toledo and MD Eastern Shore in Detroit.

...in Toledo.


 
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08-05-19 01:11 PM - Post#286760    
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Colgate
vs NJIT
@ Clemson
@ Syracuse
@ Auburn
vs Cortland
vs TBA Legends Classic in Green Bay
vs TBA Legends Classic in Green Bay
vs Siena
@ Binghamton
@ Niagara
vs Cornell
@ Cincinnati
vs Columbia


 
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08-05-19 01:14 PM - Post#286761    
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  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
When the Bison played in it in 2014, for example, they played at Michigan and Villanova, followed by games vs Toledo and MD Eastern Shore in Detroit.

...in Toledo.






Oops. Was thinking for some reason of the fourth team in that bracket, which was Detroit Mercy.




 
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08-05-19 01:24 PM - Post#286763    
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Heckuva Colgate schedule. That three-game stretch against major opponents reminds me of Bucknell's Arkansas-North Carolina-Maryland swing two seasons ago.

Must be one of the strongest Patriot League nonconference schedules played by anyone other than Bucknell for a while. And the Raiders will have substantial potential to pull an upset.

 
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08-05-19 01:37 PM - Post#286764    
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  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
Heckuva Colgate schedule. That three-game stretch against major opponents reminds me of Bucknell's Arkansas-North Carolina-Maryland swing two seasons ago.

Must be one of the strongest Patriot League nonconference schedules played by anyone other than Bucknell for a while. And the Raiders will have substantial potential to pull an upset.




Yes, very tough schedule. The three game stretch is in the same ballpark with Bucknell's three games from the 2018 season - except the Bison had to do it in less than seven days, with a stop back in Lewisburg in the middle. You'll recall that Bison schedule also included four games with A-10 opponents, plus Vermont and a good Monmouth team. Pomeroy ranked it as the 31st best OOC schedule in the nation. No PL OOC schedule has been better, with the possible exception of the Bison 2005-06 schedule, which was ranked #32 by Pomeroy. That schedule has to get an asterisk, however, since they ended up having to play Haverford - a weak game that is not counted by Pomeroy.




 
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08-05-19 01:47 PM - Post#286765    
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It will be interesting to see where Colgate's OOC schedule is ranked this year. It looks VERY good. I applaud them for playing strong teams and getting 5 home games. If anything, they should be more than ready for PL games.
'RAY FOR THE ORANGE AND THE BLUE!


 
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08-05-19 04:11 PM - Post#286770    
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But what is puzzling is that they only have one game vs the four power teams (Auburn).



I'm guessing they couldn't get four power teams which is why Richmond is in the tournament. Since Richmond's gate couldn't justify a meaningful payout, the tournament likely allowed (encouraged) Colgate to find a replacement game on its home court.


Edited by DoCtoR62 on 08-05-19 04:12 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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08-05-19 07:44 PM - Post#286774    
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Interesting graphic regarding road wins. We've beaten a few of these teams on the road.
https://twitter.com/CBBSuperFan/status/11 584604030...

 
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08-05-19 07:53 PM - Post#286775    
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Interesting graphic regarding road wins. We've beaten a few of these teams on the road.
https://twitter.com/CBBSuperFan/status/11 584604030...




Very interesting list, and another demonstration of how good Bison basketball has been. The Bison have road wins since 2010 against four of the top eight teams on this list: Vermont, Stony Brook, Robert Morris, and Albany. Haven't played any of the others.




 
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08-05-19 07:59 PM - Post#286776    
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One thing that is strange is an incongruity with the Legends Classic. That tournament format is always four games, where the mid-majors play at two strong opponents and then play two more games vs other mid-majors at one site. . . . . So one guess is that for some reason Colgate couldn't find a date that worked with the power team they were supposed to visit, and the tournament substituted another team as a one-game member of the tournament to get Colgate four games. Maybe Cortland?




Confirmed with Colgate that indeed Cortland has become part of the Legends Classic for this one game. Their schedule has now been changed to reflect that.

I wonder how many people they will pack into Cotterell for a November Thursday night game vs D3 Cortland just before the students leave on break.




 
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08-05-19 09:16 PM - Post#286779    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
Interesting graphic regarding road wins. We've beaten a few of these teams on the road.
https://twitter.com/CBBSuperFan/status/11 584604030...





One bit of trivia on road wins. Over the entire decade, Syracuse has played exactly ten OOC road games. They are 5-5 in those ten road games.




 
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08-07-19 02:53 PM - Post#286827    
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Oops. Posted to wrong thread.


OOC Schedule announced:

2019-20 Bucknell Non-Conference Schedule:

Nov. 5 at Fairfield
Nov. 10 vs. VERMONT
Nov. 13 vs. HOFSTRA
Nov. 16 at Canisius
Nov. 19 at Penn State
Nov. 23 at Syracuse
Nov. 25 vs. Seattle (Orlando, Fla.)
Nov. 26 vs. Western Michigan or Yale (Orlando, Fla.)
Nov. 30 vs. PRINCETON
Dec. 3 at Rider
Dec. 7 vs. ALBANY
Dec. 21 at Siena
Dec. 29 at La Salle (at The Palestra)

https://bucknellbison.com/news/2019/8/7/bucknel l-m...


Four home OOC games, including three vs strong opponents: Vermont, Hofstra, Princeton, and Albany.




 
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08-15-19 03:56 PM - Post#286980    
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Navy
@ George Mason
vs East Carolina
vs Washington (MD)
@ Liberty
vs Lipscomb
vs Cornell
@ Brown
@ Bryant
vs Marist
vs Mount Saint Mary's
at Virginia

https://navysports.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbball

 
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08-15-19 04:03 PM - Post#286982    
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American
@ Siena
vs William & Mary
@ George Washington
@ St Francis PA
vs Howard
@ Albany
vs UMBC
@ George Mason
@ Mount St. Mary's
vs Stony Brook
at Georgetown

http://www.aueagles.com/sports/m-baskbl/2019- 20/sc...

 
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Re: Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20
08-16-19 06:41 AM - Post#286990    
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Did American decide to travel to any local DC school with George in the name?
Ray Bucknell!


 
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Re: Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20
08-16-19 09:59 AM - Post#286994    
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  • atlantabison Said:
Did American decide to travel to any local DC school with George in the name?




Looks that way. Unfortunately for AU, none of the three have been willing to play in Bender. Not expecting to ever see Georgetown there, but it's a bit surprising they can't get the other two - who are both mediocre programs located within a few miles of American - to do at least a two-for-one. Maybe they should try George Fox University, a D3 in Oregon, instead. Or maybe branch out and play schools with Georgia in their name.




 
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