NoMoney89
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Re: Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20 08-19-19 10:29 AM - Post#287021
In response to Bison137
Did American decide to travel to any local DC school with George in the name?
Looks that way. Unfortunately for AU, none of the three have been willing to play in Bender. Not expecting to ever see Georgetown there, but it's a bit surprising they can't get the other two - who are both mediocre programs located within a few miles of American - to do at least a two-for-one. Maybe they should try George Fox University, a D3 in Oregon, instead. Or maybe branch out and play schools with Georgia in their name.
With that close proximity, maybe they don't care about reciprocal arrangements. Avoids the risk of visitors "buying" out the arena for that one game. And because its a "local"game the "buy" if there is one for the smaller Georges, could be smaller due to lack of expenses.
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09-03-19 11:01 AM - Post#287386
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Loyola
vs Johns Hopkins (exhibition)
@ Marquette
@ Chicago State
@ Old Dominion
vs Fairfield
@ George Mason
vs IUPUI in Omaha
vs Nebraska-Omaha or Southern in Omaha
vs Binghamton
@ Delaware State
@ Mount St Mary's
vs Elizabethtown (D3)
vs UMass Lowell
@ VCU
https://loyolagreyhounds.com/schedule.aspx?path=mb...
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BisonRoadWarrior
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09-03-19 11:10 AM - Post#287387
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Colgate's matchups in the Legends Classic, previously TBA, have been released.
vs NJIT
@ Clemson
@ Syracuse
@ Auburn
vs Cortland
vs CSU Northridge - Legends Classic in Green Bay
@ Green Bay- Legends Classic in Green Bay
vs Siena
@ Binghamton
@ Niagara
vs Cornell
@ Cincinnati
vs Columbia
https://gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?schedul...
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Bison89
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Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20 09-03-19 11:35 AM - Post#287388
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Colgate's matchups in the Legends Classic, previously TBA, have been released.
vs NJIT
@ Clemson
@ Syracuse
@ Auburn
vs Cortland
vs CSU Northridge - Legends Classic in Green Bay
@ Green Bay- Legends Classic in Green Bay
vs Siena
@ Binghamton
@ Niagara
vs Cornell
@ Cincinnati
vs Columbia
https://gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?schedul...
IMO, other than D3 Cortland, this is a fun schedule. Is it the most difficult in the PL? (137, any thoughts?)
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Bison137
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Re: Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20 09-03-19 12:45 PM - Post#287392
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Colgate's matchups in the Legends Classic, previously TBA, have been released.
vs NJIT
@ Clemson
@ Syracuse
@ Auburn
vs Cortland
vs CSU Northridge - Legends Classic in Green Bay
@ Green Bay- Legends Classic in Green Bay
vs Siena
@ Binghamton
@ Niagara
vs Cornell
@ Cincinnati
vs Columbia
https://gocolgateraiders.com/schedule.aspx?schedul...
IMO, other than D3 Cortland, this is a fun schedule. Is it the most difficult in the PL? (137, any thoughts?)
The top four of the Colgate schedule is stronger than that of the Bison. Bison schedule is definitely harder for the other nine. When the season is over, I expect the two to be about the same in terms of the average. I think Buchnell will have the stronger schedule in terms of the median.
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Bison89
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09-03-19 03:21 PM - Post#287398
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Thanks!
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BisonRoadWarrior
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09-04-19 06:49 PM - Post#287428
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Holy Cross
vs Assumption (exhibition)
@ Maryland
@ New Hampshire
vs Fairfield
vs Northeastern
vs Harvard
@ Florida Atlantic (Boca Raton Classic)
vs Hofstra (Boca Raton Classic)
vs Canisius or Mercer (Boca Raton Classic)
@ San Diego
vs UMass Boston (D3)
@ Canisius
vs Sacred Heart
@ Siena
https://goholycross.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_O...
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HuskyColonial
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09-05-19 09:26 AM - Post#287441
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A little on the weak side
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Bison89
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09-05-19 10:27 AM - Post#287444
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Holy Cross
vs Assumption (exhibition)
@ Maryland
@ New Hampshire
vs Fairfield
vs Northeastern
vs Harvard
@ Florida Atlantic (Boca Raton Classic)
vs Hofstra (Boca Raton Classic)
vs Canisius or Mercer (Boca Raton Classic)
@ San Diego
vs UMass Boston (D3)
@ Canisius
vs Sacred Heart
@ Siena
https://goholycross.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_O...
What is the difference between an "exhibition" game and a "D3" game?
BTW, I like the Florida trip. It is good for the team and good for the fans.
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Bison137
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09-05-19 11:30 AM - Post#287453
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Holy Cross
vs Assumption (exhibition)
@ Maryland
@ New Hampshire
vs Fairfield
vs Northeastern
vs Harvard
@ Florida Atlantic (Boca Raton Classic)
vs Hofstra (Boca Raton Classic)
vs Canisius or Mercer (Boca Raton Classic)
@ San Diego
vs UMass Boston (D3)
@ Canisius
vs Sacred Heart
@ Siena
https://goholycross.com/SportSelect.dbml?&DB_O...
What is the difference between an "exhibition" game and a "D3" game?
BTW, I like the Florida trip. It is good for the team and good for the fans.
An exhibition game is one that doesn't count, either in the W-L column or in the total of games a team can play. A team is allowed to play a total of two exhibition games and/or scrimmages. The exhibition games must be with D2/D3/NAIA teams or possibly some touring team. Scrimmages normally are with D1 teams but must be closed to the public with no official stats.
In contrast, HC's game with UMass-Boston is not an exhibition game and does count. (To make it more confusing, it could possibly be a real game for HC but an exhibition for UMass-Boston.)
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Bison89
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09-05-19 12:22 PM - Post#287455
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So, one team could play an exhibition game while the other team is playing a real game???!!! That is CRAZY . . .
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Bison137
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09-05-19 03:03 PM - Post#287461
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So, one team could play an exhibition game while the other team is playing a real game???!!! That is CRAZY . . .
That has happened on a number of occasions. For example, Army some years ago played an official game vs Vassar - but for Vassar it was an exhibition.
Another example - although it wasn't really disclosed at the time -was when Bucknell hosted the Legends Classic in November of 2011. West Alabama, a D2 school that had been pressed into service when the Gazelle Group couldn't find enough teams, played three games in Sojka. Their first two were official games that counted on their W-L record - but their final game, vs Princeton, went into West Alabama's record book as an exhibition. Princeton, however, counted it as a regular game and didn't even note that it was only an exhibition game for their opponent. I believe that West Alabama had to treat it as an exhibition because otherwise they would have exceeded the NCAA limit for regular season games.
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09-05-19 04:41 PM - Post#287465
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The NCAA never ceases to amaze me.
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09-05-19 05:06 PM - Post#287467
In response to Bison89
Lafayette
vs Columbia
@ St Francis PA
@ Princeton
vs Delaware
vs Penn
vs Farleigh Dickinson
@ St Joe's
@ Cornell
vs Widener (D3)
@ Rutgers
@ Sacred Heart
https://www.goleopards.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbba...
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Bison137
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09-05-19 05:27 PM - Post#287468
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The NCAA never ceases to amaze me.
I don't think it's an issue with the NCAA. There has to be some limit on how many games a team can play - and the current limit is what has been voted on by the member schools. The clause allowing the D2/D3 team to treat a game as an exhibition is presumably in there to allow a D1 team to complete their schedule when they need another game or to allow a local matchup of a D1 with a D3, where the D3 is reluctant to have the game show up on its record.
One thing to remember about NCAA rules is that most of them were proposed by the member schools, and almost all have been voted on and approved by the member schools. The NCAA never writes these rules on their own. It's just convenient for schools to blame the NCAA when they run afoul of a rule that they actually voted to implement at some time in the past.
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09-05-19 10:32 PM - Post#287473
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Army
@ Villanova
vs US Merchant Marine Academy (D3)
vs Air Force
vs Farleigh Dickinson
@ Binghamton
@ Marist
vs NJIT
vs Long Island University
@ Merrimack
@ Buffalo
@ Wagner
https://goarmywestpoint.com/schedule.aspx?path=mbb...
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Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20 09-05-19 10:39 PM - Post#287474
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Two things to note about Army's opponents:
--The Merrimack College Warriors (North Andover, MA), are transitioning to D1 and are now members of the Northeast Conference.
--Long Island University has merged its Post and Brooklyn campuses' athletic programs. So long D1 LIU Brooklyn Blackbirds and D2 LIU Post Pioneers. Hello D1 LIU Sharks. Naturally, some alumni aren't digging the name change.
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Bison137
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Re: Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20 09-06-19 09:41 AM - Post#287481
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Two things to note about Army's opponents:
--The Merrimack College Warriors (North Andover, MA), are transitioning to D1 and are now members of the Northeast Conference.
--Long Island University has merged its Post and Brooklyn campuses' athletic programs. So long D1 LIU Brooklyn Blackbirds and D2 LIU Post Pioneers. Hello D1 LIU Sharks. Naturally, some alumni aren't digging the name change.
That's an easy conference change in terms of the name. They have been members for years in the D2 Northeast 10.
The NEC has seen a lot of change over the years. Past members include Monmouth, Quinnipiac, Marist, Rider, Siena, Loyola, UMBC, and Towson. Five of those teams are now in the MAAC and a sixth (Loyola) was a long-time MAAC member as well. Loyola is one of three PL members who were once in the MAAC.
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Bison89
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09-06-19 09:54 AM - Post#287482
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137, without looking it up, I am going to guess that Loyola, American, and Boston U were all in the MAAC at one time. How did I do?
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Patriot League Non-Conference Schedules 2019-20 09-06-19 10:47 AM - Post#287484
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137, without looking it up, I am going to guess that Loyola, American, and Boston U were all in the MAAC at one time. How did I do?
Not so well. Other than Loyola, the other two are Army and Holy Cross. Although some ignorant HC fans like to blame the PL for their program's demise, their program actually fell into mediocrity after they joined the MAAC (1983). They were 93-110 during the MAAC years, with one good year at the end after it was known they were heading for the new PL the next year.
Boston U was in the ECAC North and its successor the North Atlantic Conference, followed by many years in America East. (Colgate was also a long-time member of the ECAC North.) American was in the ECC until the mid-80's, followed by many years in the CAA.
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