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08-02-19 12:11 PM - Post#286656    

With school starting up again in a few weeks, I figure it's time to start a thread for the 2019-20 season. Carrying over a few pieces of recent news:

1. As reported by Bucknellbisonfan21, the women will open at Virginia on Tuesday November 5th. UVA was a top 100 team last year, although not as good as the ACC elites.

2. First new recruit for the new staff was 6-0 SF Kaylee Reinbeau from West Virginia: http://boards.basketball-u.com/showtopic.php?tid/2...

3. Second new recruit was Nicole Davis, a 6-4 PF/C from the Richmond area: http://boards.basketball-u.com/showtopic.php?tid/2...

4. Julie Kulesza, a wing from Delaware and that state's POY as a soph, is a Roussell commit who appears to be sticking with Bucknell. Thread: http://boards.basketball-u.com/showtopic.php?tid/2...





 
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08-02-19 12:12 PM - Post#286657    
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One bit of new news: Bison will host St. Bona on Wednesday November 13th. This will be the fourth straight year the two teams have met.


https://twitter.com/BonniesWBB/status/115 731260202...






 
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08-02-19 01:31 PM - Post#286659    
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Bison women will be playing in the Puerto Rico Classic in San Juan over Thanksgiving. They face Cincinnati on November 28th. Possibly Iowa. Looks like the tournament may have had trouble getting participants, as it is apparently only two games this year as opposed to three last year.




 
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08-03-19 07:53 AM - Post#286686    
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It looks like there will only be 11 players on the roster this year. That seems pretty thin to be able to deal with injuries. Glad to hear Kulesza has not bailed out. We'll see what happens with Davis, but I'm not fond of project centers. The last one, MK Moore, did not work out. On the other hand, Sune Swart was a bit of a project and ended up being very good.

 
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08-03-19 10:49 PM - Post#286699    
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Didn't want to start a separate thread for this, but Jewel Spear, Kahliel's sister, who is a rising senior and one of the better guards in the country, cut her list of colleges down to eight earlier in the summer. Not too shabby a list:

- Louisville
- Georgetown
- Kansas
- Michigan
- Texas Tech
- Wake Forest
- Alabama
- North Carolina State




 
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08-09-19 12:35 PM - Post#286869    
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Women's schedule was just released - including PL games. The OOC part of it looks like this:

Tue. Nov. 5 at Virginia TBA Charlottesville, Va.
Sat. Nov. 9 MONMOUTH TBA Sojka Pavilion
Wed. Nov. 13 ST. BONAVENTURE TBA Sojka Pavilion
Sat. Nov. 16 at Quinnipiac TBA Hamden, Conn.
Wed. Nov. 20 TEMPLE TBA Sojka Pavilion
Wed. Nov. 27 vs. Howard^ TBA San Juan, P.R.
Thu. Nov. 28 vs. Cincinnati^ TBA San Juan, P.R.
Wed. Dec. 4 at George Mason TBA Fairfax, Va.
Sun. Dec. 8 DREXEL TBA Sojka Pavilion
Sat. Dec. 21 at Saint Francis (Pa.) TBA Loretto, Pa.
Sun. Dec. 29 at Stony Brook TBA Stony Brook, N.Y

https://bucknellbison.com/documents/2019/8/9//1 920...

There is one OOC double-header, on November 13th when the men play Hofstra in Sojka.




 
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08-09-19 01:35 PM - Post#286870    
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Excellent schedule. Home game with Temple too.

 
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08-09-19 02:15 PM - Post#286871    
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Temple is the bigger name, but Drexel has been significantly better than Temple the last couple years. They handed the Bison one of their very few losses last year.




 
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08-09-19 06:26 PM - Post#286872    
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Five of the last seven league games at home which is nice. Hope they do another PL double header this year.



 
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08-09-19 06:45 PM - Post#286873    
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  • Bison137 Said:
Temple is the bigger name, but Drexel has been significantly better than Temple the last couple years. They handed the Bison one of their very few losses last year.


Cincinnati, Quinnipiac, and UVA will be tough games. Stony Brook is also decent. The rest of the schedule is fairly easy. Even with all the graduation, this will be a good team. Keep in mind their final RPI was 37 last year.

 
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08-10-19 07:51 AM - Post#286874    
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The women played like a legit 12 seed. I hope the program can continue to grow.

 
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10-17-19 11:15 AM - Post#288661    
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Very close preseason poll released today:

Patriot League Women’s Basketball Preseason Poll
Lehigh – 140 (9 first-place votes)
Holy Cross – 138 (5 first-place votes)
Bucknell – 132 (4 first-place votes)
Boston University – 113
American – 103 (2 first-place votes)
Colgate – 78
Loyola Maryland – 74
Navy – 44
Lafayette – 42
Army West Point – 36

Ellie Mack, as expected, is an All-PL pick.

There won't be any easy games this year, as even the bottom three are dangerous. I think Navy should have been ranked a few spots higher. Army is not a typical last place team either.




 
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10-31-19 11:34 PM - Post#289402    
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Bison will have a new face for their women's broadcasts this year: Joe Vasile. He has been the announcer for West Chester's women's team the last few years and also has worked for several minor league baseball teams (including Scranton Wilkes-Barre). Joe has also done some Bucknell women's games as a fill-in and also some soccer and FH games, while also doing work for Princeton and Lafayette. Based on from what I have heard from his so far, I think his addition will likely be an upgrade.

The previous Bison announcer, Justin Antweil, has moved over to cover the Penn State women.


Joe Vasile hired as radio play-by-play voice of Bison women's basketball




 
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11-02-19 02:22 PM - Post#289508    
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Women's video preview:

Trevor Woodruff ready to put new stamp on Bucknell women's basketball


Early reports are that the starting lineup looks to be Mack, Brugler, A. Johnson, Kapp, and Walls.





 
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11-02-19 02:24 PM - Post#289509    
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Videos on the three freshmen:

Tai Johnson: https://twitter.com/Bucknell_WBB/status/1 190332345...

Carly Krsul: https://twitter.com/Bucknell_WBB/status/1 189569585...

Emma Shaffer: https://twitter.com/Bucknell_WBB/status/1 189923732...




 
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11-08-19 08:05 PM - Post#290367    
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Never posted about the women's first game. Lost at Virginia, 80-64, although they only trailed by 9 points with 8 minutes left. Virginia currently is ranked 63rd in the country, so the result was no big surprise - especially with Abby Kapp playing very limited minutes. I noticed in a video last night that her knee was tightly wrapped in practice, so I am assuming that is the main issue. Hopefully nothing else.

Ellie Mack had a very good game, with 19 points (on 13 shots) and 5 boards. The other highlight was Taylor O'Brien getting 13 points off the bench in 23 minutes.

Three determining factors: (1) Bison were outrebounded 38-19 by a team that had more athleticism upfront; (2) Virginia got to the line for 28 FT's vs BU's 13 attempts; and (3) Virginia hit 55% on threes vs BU's 30%.

We will learn a lot more about the new Bison tomorrow evening when they meet Monmouth in Sojka at 6 PM.




 
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11-08-19 09:49 PM - Post#290378    
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Final at UVA was 84-60. Would have been more respectable at 80-64.

 
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And who is Bridget Tobin (SO)? Is she a late walk-on?

 
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11-09-19 12:31 AM - Post#290393    
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And who is Bridget Tobin (SO)? Is she a late walk-on?




A walk-on, but not really late. She has been on the team the entire fall. Bridget Tobin is a 5-5 PG from Red Bank Regional (NJ Shore Conference) - which has been a good program and plays in a fairly strong league. She averaged 12 ppg, 4 rpg, and 4 apg as a senior. Dpubtful she will ever play meaningful minutes but the roster definitely needed an addition.




 
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11-09-19 12:32 AM - Post#290394    
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Final at UVA was 84-60. Would have been more respectable at 80-64.





Yes, I typed too fast. It is correct, however, that they only trailed by 9 points with about 8 minutes left. Apparently they wore down. It didn't help having Kapp on the bench.




 
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11-09-19 11:42 AM - Post#290403    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
And who is Bridget Tobin (SO)? Is she a late walk-on?




A walk-on, but not really late. She has been on the team the entire fall. Bridget Tobin is a 5-5 PG from Red Bank Regional (NJ Shore Conference) - which has been a good program and plays in a fairly strong league. She averaged 12 ppg, 4 rpg, and 4 apg as a senior. Dpubtful she will ever play meaningful minutes but the roster definitely needed an addition.


I don't recall seeing her name before, but could have missed it. Was also confused by her being listed as a sophomore.


 
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11-09-19 11:28 PM - Post#290485    
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Nice win tonight against an overmatched Monmouth team. I was particularly impressed with Brugler, who clearly merited her step up to a starting role this year. I was a bit concerned that we only played seven players in the first half, for obvious reasons. However, when Krsul and Tai Johnson got on the court in the second half they both looked ready to contribute right away. I suspect we’ll see them in the first half of games pretty soon.

 
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11-10-19 08:27 AM - Post#290496    
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How has the style of play changed with the new coach? Are we coaching to our player's strengths?

 
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11-10-19 09:22 AM - Post#290498    
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How has the style of play changed with the new coach? Are we coaching to our player's strengths?


The defense is much more aggressive. They played a lot of 3/4 court press. They seem to be more deliberate on offense - not looking for a lot of fast break opportunities, but passing and looking for the open player.

 
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11-10-19 09:35 AM - Post#290499    
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What he said.

 
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11-28-19 09:14 PM - Post#292620    
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Women got two good wins in Puerto Rico yesterday and today over Howard and Cincinnati. Very balanced scoring today. Mack had an off day, but Allie Johnson and Abby Kapp took up the slack.

 
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Women got another good win today at GMU 64-51 to move to 5-3. Tessa Brugler had a career day with 24 pts, 11 reb.

Overall, the PL is having a good OOC season with seven teams over .500.

 
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12-04-19 07:23 PM - Post#293608    
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Prior to the win today, the Bison were ranked 107th in the nation (Massey). Seven PL teams - Bucknell, Lehigh, Colgate, Holy Cross, Boston U, American, and Navy - are in the top 174. And the PL is the #18 conference in the nation - which might be its top ranking ever.

Colgate has been bad for 15 consecutive years but thus far is playing very well. It might be a one-year phenomenon since their top player and a couple of other starters are seniors - but their coach, former Bloomsburg coach Bill Cleary - deserves a lot of credit. He is in his fourth year at CU.




 
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12-04-19 07:39 PM - Post#293610    
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Tessa Brugler had a career day with 24 pts, 11 reb.






Brugler has exactly doubled her scoring rate per minute compared to last year - despite more of the minutes being against better competition.




 
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I mentioned after the Monmouth game that Brugler had impressed me. Not sure if she’s picked up her game or if she just needed the chance, but I think she’s going to be a big part of the team this year. I really like this team.

 
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12-04-19 10:33 PM - Post#293711    
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Coach Cleary was very well regarded at Bloomsburg. I thought he was a good hire at the time.

 
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12-04-19 10:53 PM - Post#293722    
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I mentioned after the Monmouth game that Brugler had impressed me. Not sure if she’s picked up her game or if she just needed the chance, but I think she’s going to be a big part of the team this year. I really like this team.




I think she has definitely improved her game. Appears to be in better condition and showing some post moves that weren't seen her first two years. Her improvement has been a big factor in the team's strong play. Prior to the season, I didn't think they had much chance to challenge Lehigh or Holy Cross, but now I think it's a very realistic possibility.




 
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12-04-19 11:26 PM - Post#293729    
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Coach Cleary was very well regarded at Bloomsburg. I thought he was a good hire at the time.



Yes, I thought he was a good hire. He is a great guy and really did a phenomenal job at Bloomsburg. I hope he really is turning things around at Colgate.

 
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Women got a very good win today 60-49 over Drexel, who had beaten us the last two years. Allie Johnson led four Bison in double figures with 15. Brugler had a double double and Mack just missed with 13 pts, 9 reb, and 6 ast. Bison head into final 6-3 with a 4 game winning streak.

 
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12-08-19 06:00 PM - Post#294129    
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In the past week Drexel had beaten both St. Joseph’s and Villanova, both good teams. They were ranked 80th in the country (Massey).

In the past 10 days, Bucknell has beaten two top hundred teams - Cincinnati and Drexel. Not sure when or if that happened before.




 
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Colgate kept it close at Alabama in the first half, but ended up losing by 20. American was down only two to Minnesota after 3 quarters, but got outscored by 15 in the 4th.

 
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Colgate kept it close at Alabama in the first half, but ended up losing by 20. American was down only two to Minnesota after 3 quarters, but got outscored by 15 in the 4th.





Based on Massey etc, Alabama is a good team but not great - slightly better than Drexel. But Minnesota is very good, so staying close to them for much of the game is a good outcome for American.




 
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12-09-19 02:38 PM - Post#294196    
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Tessa Brugler was named PL POW for her two double-doubles in five days, versus GMU and Drexel. Bucknell has had very few players who have improved as much from one year to the next as Brugler. Kudos to her.


https://bucknellbison.com/news/2019/12/9/womens -ba...




 
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Nice profile of assistant Kelly Mazzante
https://www.pahomepage.com/sports/local-hoops-le ge...

 
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Bison won their 5th in a row at St. Francis this afternoon 70-46. St. Francis started the 3rd quarter on a 7-2 run to pull within 38-32. Trevor Woodruff called a timeout and the Bison scored the next 20 points to turn it into a blowout win.
https://bucknellbison.com/news/2019/12/21/women s-b...

 
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12-21-19 06:46 PM - Post#295097    
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Watched the second half. That run was impressive. Ellie Mack and Taylor O'Brien in particular played well. Allie Johnson, normally the starting SG, was not in uniform today. Did they mention the reason? Hopefully nothing serious.




 
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Watched the second half. That run was impressive. Ellie Mack and Taylor O'Brien in particular played well. Allie Johnson, normally the starting SG, was not in uniform today. Did they mention the reason? Hopefully nothing serious.


I missed the beginning of the game, but never heard them mention why Allie wasn't playing. O'Brien did a great job as a starter.

 
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Nice to see Ally Johnson back on the floor today. 19 minutes, according to the box score.

 
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Nice to see Ally Johnson back on the floor today. 19 minutes, according to the box score.



Yes. With her return, the bison have a good bench. Taylor O’Brien has been playing great, Ceppi rebounds and defends, and the two freshman, Tai Johnson and Krsul have been earning increased minutes with their play. I didn’t see the game today but it is possible Krsul got hurt. She played one minute at the start of the second quarter, got fouled, and then was taken out at the next stoppage of play.




 
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Nice to see Ally Johnson back on the floor today. 19 minutes, according to the box score.


Yes, she had a good game and looked like she's 100%. Surprisingly, Tai Johnson played more minutes than O'Brien. Bison did a great job on Kucowski, holding her to 6 points on 3-10 shooting. She did get 13 reb, but only 3 offensive. Lafayette shot only 28% and 2-11 from 3.

In contrast to our game, Colgate beat Army 100-94. I'm not sure what the PL women's record is for total points in a game, but this one's got to be in the top 10.

 
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01-05-20 06:54 PM - Post#296114    
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  • bison75 Said:
Nice to see Ally Johnson back on the floor today. 19 minutes, according to the box score.



Yes, she had a good game and looked like she's 100%. Surprisingly, Tai Johnson played more minutes than O'Brien.




O’Brien got in early foul trouble and only played eight minutes in the first half. She started the second half but missed two shots and had a turnover early and was pulled four minutes in. Never got back in the game. Apparently Woodruff liked the chemistry of the team on the floor or Tai Johnson’s defense or something. Although not her best game today, O’Brien Is a great athlete and contributes in a lot of ways.




 
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No question O'Brien is a great contributor. That's why I was surprised she didn't get back into the game. She's great at getting to the basket. Just wish she had a little more finesse on her layups.

 
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01-05-20 10:54 PM - Post#296126    
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Highlights:

https://twitter.com/Bucknell_WBB/status/1 213964354...




 
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01-08-20 10:11 PM - Post#296285    
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Meanwhile, another superb defensive performance by the women. On the road, held Navy to 34 points on 28% shooting.

 
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Meanwhile, another superb defensive performance by the women. On the road, held Navy to 34 points on 28% shooting.


This team is for real. Big game coming up Saturday at Holy Cross.

 
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01-09-20 06:30 AM - Post#296298    
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Top two scorers no longer on the team for Navy...Navy a very shorthanded team now... Bucknell-HC should be a great game...

 
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Holy Cross eked out a 1 point win over Lafayette (who we beat 50-36) at home on a 3 point play with 8 seconds left. I'm not saying this will be an easy game, but the results indicate we're the better team. Current RPIs are 94 (BU) and 105 (HC).

 
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01-09-20 10:10 PM - Post#296323    
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Holy Cross eked out a 1 point win over Lafayette (who we beat 50-36) at home on a 3 point play with 8 seconds left. I'm not saying this will be an easy game, but the results indicate we're the better team. Current RPIs are 94 (BU) and 105 (HC).




Definitely not an easy game. HC starts four seniors, plus a soph PG who was the PL ROY last year. They also have the league's top player (Lauren Manis), who is the preseason POY this year and who will end her career having made 1st team All-PL three times and 2nd team once. HC also leads the nation in three-point shooting accuracy. Included on their resume thus far is a win over Boston College and also an OT loss at Illinois - but they have not been consistent. I will be rooting for the Bison of course, but if HC comes to play, I think they have a good chance to win on their home court.

One other intangible is that HC is better coached this year, with Bill Gibbons having been suspended and then having his contract non-renewed. I don't think their interim coach, Ann McInerney is great - but she is a definite improvement.




 
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01-10-20 12:14 AM - Post#296326    
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In contrast to HC’s senior laden team, it’s worth remembering that we graduated three thousand-point scorers from last year’s team. The fact that we can still go nine deep this year despite those graduations says a lot about how far this program has come.

 
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01-11-20 01:56 PM - Post#296508    
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Up 31-22 at the half. Mack with 11, Walls with 13.

Edited by jkrun80 on 01-11-20 02:00 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-11-20 04:45 PM - Post#296532    
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Ellie Mack. 17 points and 12 rebounds. That’s showing up big time in a big game.

 
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Mack vs. Manis was a treat to watch. Luckily, Ellie got the better of it, but Manis is really tough and talented.

 
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01-11-20 05:20 PM - Post#296536    
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Hope Walls is going to be OK. Looked like it could be either a knee or ankle. It would be better if it's her ankle, not the knee.

 
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01-11-20 10:02 PM - Post#296553    
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Hope Walls is going to be OK. Looked like it could be either a knee or ankle. It would be better if it's her ankle, not the knee.




Unfortunately it looks like her right knee. Hopefully just a sprain, but it didn't look good.




 
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01-12-20 09:16 AM - Post#296560    
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Losing Walls would be a big blow. AJ and Tai can play the point, but they're not going to drive into the lane and draw fouls the way Marly does. She was key to keeping us in the game in the first half yesterday.

 
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01-15-20 09:00 AM - Post#296693    
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Ally Johnson is listed as a starter for tonight's game in place of Walls.

 
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01-15-20 10:40 AM - Post#296699    
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Losing Walls would be a big blow. AJ and Tai can play the point, but they're not going to drive into the lane and draw fouls the way Marly does. She was key to keeping us in the game in the first half yesterday.



AJ has also struggled against pressing defenses when asked to play the point.




 
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01-15-20 08:44 PM - Post#296743    
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Yet another solid defensive effort tonight. Held American to 43 points, though 17 of those came in the fourth quarter after the game was out of reach. Walls DNP. I wasn’t there, so don’t know if she was dressed or anything else about her status.

 
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01-15-20 08:58 PM - Post#296750    
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Walls DNP. I wasn’t there, so don’t know if she was dressed or anything else about her status.




Walls was not dressed and had her knee in a brace. I would be very surprised to see her back this year. Hoping I'm wrong.




 
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01-16-20 04:00 PM - Post#296823    
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  • Bison137 Said:

Walls was not dressed and had her knee in a brace. I would be very surprised to see her back this year. Hoping I'm wrong.



I'm encouraged by the fact she was not on crutches. Time will tell how serious her injury is. AJ did a fine job filling in for her. They didn't miss a beat vs. American.

Big game Saturday @ Lehigh, but I like our chances. Lehigh only beat AU by 1 and had their hands full with Navy last night.

Edited by jkrun80 on 01-16-20 04:00 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-16-20 05:33 PM - Post#296843    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:

Walls was not dressed and had her knee in a brace. I would be very surprised to see her back this year. Hoping I'm wrong.



I'm encouraged by the fact she was not on crutches. Time will tell how serious her injury is. AJ did a fine job filling in for her.




I’m not particularly encouraged, although I certainly hope it is something less serious. I have seen dozens of players with torn ACL’s who were able to get along without crutches prior to their surgery. My daughter tore her ACL twice, for example, and never used crutches until after surgery. Whether crutches are needed or not depends mostly on the swelling, and that is a function of several things.

Remember that Steven Tyree actually played most of the season in his final year with a torn ACL that had not been fixed. Lindsey Hollobaugh did the same. And Philip Rivers played in an AFC championship game with a torn ACL. Etc.




 
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01-18-20 03:57 PM - Post#296986    
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Bison women bused over to Lehigh this afternoon in the middle of the snowstorm. Arrived only an hour and five minutes before gametime. The Lehigh men on the other hand bused to Lewisburg the night before. Traveling today in the snow might’ve been a coaches decision, but my guess would be that the Bucknell administration simply refuses to pay for a hotel.




 
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01-18-20 04:46 PM - Post#297006    
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Bison women bused over to Lehigh this afternoon in the middle of the snowstorm. Arrived only an hour and five minutes before gametime. The Lehigh men on the other hand bused to Lewisburg the night before. Traveling today in the snow might’ve been a coaches decision, but my guess would be that the Bucknell administration simply refuses to pay for a hotel.


Let's hope this doesn't affect their play. This is a big one.

They could have left at 8:00 this morning and gotten there ahead of the snow.

 
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01-18-20 06:10 PM - Post#297023    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
  • Bison137 Said:
Bison women bused over to Lehigh this afternoon in the middle of the snowstorm. Arrived only an hour and five minutes before gametime. The Lehigh men on the other hand bused to Lewisburg the night before. Traveling today in the snow might’ve been a coaches decision, but my guess would be that the Bucknell administration simply refuses to pay for a hotel.


Let's hope this doesn't affect their play. This is a big one.

They could have left at 8:00 this morning and gotten there ahead of the snow.




Listening to the game, it appears they did go out last night. But why they arrived at the arena so close to game time was not clear. Normally teams arrive much earlier than 65 minutes before gametime.




 
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01-18-20 06:47 PM - Post#297029    
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Huge win for the bison today, beating previously undefeated Lehigh 71 to 50. BU hit a high percentage on threes, especially Kapp, and did a very good job on the boards.

The only bad news is that it was confirmed that Marly Walls has a torn ACL and is out for the season. That is a big loss to the team.




 
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01-18-20 07:17 PM - Post#297036    
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Bad news about Marly, but not unexpected. AJ has stepped in and done a great job. I just worry about her playing nearly 40 minutes all season.

There's a long way to go, but we've beaten the two teams picked to finish ahead of us on the road. And we've beaten them easily. If we get by Colgate on Wednesday, we're set up well for the rest of the season.

 
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01-19-20 10:33 AM - Post#297073    
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Perhaps this win will get us some attention in the mid-major polls. Lehigh is ranked 16th. Stony Brook, who we took to 2OT is 13th. Drexel, who we beat handily, is 23rd. Our only "bad" loss is to Quinnipiac who is having an uncharacteristic off year.

 
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01-20-20 08:18 AM - Post#297114    
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Feature article about the women's season so far:
https://www.dailyitem.com/sports/local_sports/b iso...

 
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01-20-20 12:33 PM - Post#297121    
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ESPN finally noticed the Bison, who now show up as a 13 seed in their bracketology, facing Iowa in the first round.




 
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01-20-20 10:06 PM - Post#297148    
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How do female athletes fair at recovering from ACL and MCL tears?

 
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01-21-20 12:31 AM - Post#297151    
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  • HuskyColonial Said:
How do female athletes fair at recovering from ACL and MCL tears?




About the same as men. Most of the time - assuming no other problems - they are able to come back well, eventually at 100%. Typical timeline from date of surgery has been 6-9 months to be playing again if no unusual complications. But some researchers are now recommending that young athletes should wait longer, to minimize risk of any recurrence. And of course everyone is different as to how long it takes to be back to 100%.




 
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01-21-20 08:19 AM - Post#297152    
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Even with the level of today’s medical gold standard it’s never an injury you want to have to rebound from. Not sure anybody really recovers to 100%. Bernard King was the first to “recover” from an ACL tear after the first level of medical advancement. Before that it was a death sentence. Imagine Bernard with two “good” knees late in his career.

 
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01-21-20 01:41 PM - Post#297161    
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  • Old Bison Said:
Even with the level of today’s medical gold standard it’s never an injury you want to have to rebound from. Not sure anybody really recovers to 100%. Bernard King was the first to “recover” from an ACL tear after the first level of medical advancement. Before that it was a death sentence. Imagine Bernard with two “good” knees late in his career.





When King tore his, there was no transplant surgery available, so normally it WAS a death sentence as far as playing professionally. He did an incredible rehab job, but even then it took him two years to come back. And I don't think he was quite as good as he was in 1984-85 prior to the injury.

Definitely not an injury you want to come back from - and my kids have collectively gone through three of them. Having said that, I think stats show that many athletes are as good after the injury as before, even though it may take some time. The surgery and rehab process has improved dramatically over the years, and it continues to get better. In fact there is a procedure being used on some the last couple of years where the ACL can actually heal itself - which normally it cannot do. Over time, that procedure may become the gold standard.

Getting back to 100% is a mental process as well as physical, where the athlete has to fully trust the knee and not think about it when making an aggressive cut or a jump stop or when planting the leg to jump. It's not easy for some because they are doing the exact same thing that tore the ACL in the first place - and it's very easy to ease up either consciously or subconsciously.




 
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01-21-20 07:42 PM - Post#297179    
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Yes, I’m post Achilles, ACL and 6-7 arthroscopic’s

Poor Stephen Tyree...nice kid!

 
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01-21-20 09:44 PM - Post#297183    
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Bison finally break into the mid-major top 25. Still ranked behind Lehigh and Drexel, neither of whom has nearly as good a resume as Bucknell. Sue Troyan must be paying off some of the voters.

http://www.collegeinsider.com/womens-mid-major-top...

It's also farcical - just as it is on the men's side - to see Gonzaga categorized as a mid-major.





 
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01-22-20 10:10 AM - Post#297191    
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  • Bison137 Said:
Bison finally break into the mid-major top 25. Still ranked behind Lehigh and Drexel, neither of whom has nearly as good a resume as Bucknell. Sue Troyan must be paying off some of the voters.

http://www.collegeinsider.com/womens-mid-major-top...

It's also farcical - just as it is on the men's side - to see Gonzaga categorized as a mid-major.




We have a better RPI than at least 14 of the teams ranked ahead of us. Colgate has a better RPI and the same record as Lehigh and isn't even receiving votes. I don't think the voters do much homework.

 
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01-22-20 09:36 PM - Post#297226    
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Another dominant performance against a quality team tonight. https://bucknellbison.com/news/2020/1/22/strong -fi...

Keep in mind, Colgate scored 100 points against Army and was averaging over 70 ppg. We held them to 43. With Lehign losing badly to HC, we are now 2 games up on all three having beaten them all once.

We have an easier stretch now with 6 games against the bottom half of the league.

 
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01-23-20 07:30 PM - Post#297258    
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Women’s RPI is now 48. That’s impressive.

 
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01-23-20 10:13 PM - Post#297275    
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Highlights from last night's game:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpXxAytgQTQ
Check out Ellie Mack's one-handed catch and layup through a double team at 0:30. She was doubled most of the night, but managed 12 points along with 9 rebounds.

 
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01-25-20 04:55 PM - Post#297410    
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  • jkrun80 Said:

We have an easier stretch now with 6 games against the bottom half of the league.



OK, jinx complete. Never expected we would lose to the last place team. Loyola's defense baffled us all day and we gave up too many O rebounds.

Hopefully this serves as motivation and doesn't undermine their confidence.

 
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01-25-20 05:07 PM - Post#297419    
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Lehigh lost their 3rd game in a row at Lafayette. Colgate pulled out a 1 point win in OT vs American.

 
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01-25-20 05:47 PM - Post#297423    
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They were probably overdue for a real clunker. . What concerns me however is the lack of real point guard with Marly Walls out. Ally Johnson is a very good shooting guard but really isn’t suited to play the point. Also playing that position limits her ability to get open threes from the wing.

They will go as far as their defense takes them. Today for whatever reason, Loyola hit a very high percentage of their three point attempts.




 
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01-25-20 05:53 PM - Post#297424    
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Walls could have made a difference today. It didn't help that Loyola was very aggressive and the refs decided to swallow their whistles. Our players were getting the snot beat out of them in the lane.

Edited by jkrun80 on 01-25-20 05:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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01-29-20 09:34 PM - Post#297773    
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Bison bounced back nicely from Saturday's loss, beating Army 77-46. And it wasn't that close. It was 75-36 with 6:00 to play before Bucknell cleared the bench. This is the team we're used to seeing.

 
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01-29-20 09:38 PM - Post#297774    
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Lafayette is up 13 on Colgate at the under 5 TO. Lehigh lost their 4th game in a row, this time at home to American.

 
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01-29-20 10:14 PM - Post#297781    
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Any idea why Brugler only played nine minutes? Seems a little low for her.

 
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01-29-20 10:32 PM - Post#297782    
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She got 2 fouls in the first quarter and sat till the half, her third at 7:22 in the third. 63-28 and no need to bring her back. Ladies played great !


 
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01-29-20 10:35 PM - Post#297783    
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  • bison75 Said:
Any idea why Brugler only played nine minutes? Seems a little low for her.




She picked up two fouls in 15 seconds late in the first. Sat for the rest of the half. Started the third quarter, but got a quick foul again and went back to the bench. She could have come back into the game later in the third quarter or at the start of the fourth - but by then, Bucknell was up by about 35 points and Ceppi/Krsul were doing fine in her place. I don't think there's an injury issue - just didn't need her with a 35+ point lead.




 
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01-30-20 04:26 PM - Post#297853    
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Our RPI dropped to 60 after the Loyola loss. I thought it would be worse. But then dropped to 63 after last night. That probably has more to do with Lehigh's tailspin than anything we've done. That win is much less impressive now that they've lost four in a row.

 
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01-30-20 05:50 PM - Post#297862    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
Our RPI dropped to 60 after the Loyola loss. I thought it would be worse. But then dropped to 63 after last night. That probably has more to do with Lehigh's tailspin than anything we've done. That win is much less impressive now that they've lost four in a row.




A big reason for the drop is simply having played Army, who has a very poor record. RPI gives a major weight to the strength of your opponents. That is a major reason that models such as Pomeroy or Massey are much more accurate. Also a major reason why RPI was dropped for the men's tournament selection process.




 
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01-30-20 08:12 PM - Post#297870    
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Where does Pomeroy have the women ranked?

 
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01-30-20 08:34 PM - Post#297872    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
Where does Pomeroy have the women ranked?




Pomeroy has no women's rankings. The best one for women's rankings is probably Massey, although I think his rankings place too much weight on the most recent couple of games. Massey has Bucknell at #94 at the moment. They were #72 a week ago - prior to the Loyola loss and the Army win.




 
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01-30-20 08:38 PM - Post#297873    
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Massey rankings for the entire Patriot League, showing current ranking and ranking a week ago (in parentheses):


94 (72) Bucknell (15-5)
138 (129) Colgate (14-6)
155 (151) HOLY CROSS (13-7)
164 (136) Lehigh (13-7)
191 (198) American (8-11)
197 (220) Boston University (10-10)
214 (240) Lafayette (10-9)
266 (268) Navy (7-13)
268 (286) Loyola (MD) (5-15)
291 (291) Army (5-15)


The Paatriot League ranks 18th among conferences.




 
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01-31-20 09:16 AM - Post#297879    
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You would think beating a team, regardless how bad, by 30+ points would help your ranking. There probably is no perfect ranking system. In the end it doesn't matter, except perhaps for NCAA seeding.

 
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01-31-20 10:20 AM - Post#297887    
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  • jkrun80 Said:
You would think beating a team, regardless how bad, by 30+ points would help your ranking. There probably is no perfect ranking system. In the end it doesn't matter, except perhaps for NCAA seeding.




Beating Army did help, but only by a small amount. Note that the changes that are displayed above are ones from a week earlier – so it incorporates both the Loyola loss and the Army win. After losing to Loyola, I believe the Bucknell ranking was 97. Then it improved a bit after beating Army but not nearly back to where it had been a week or 10 days earlier.




 
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