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Username Post: Seth Towns        (Topic#23448)
84grad 
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11-04-19 05:46 PM - Post#289682    

Jeff Goodman:

Harvard’s Tommy Amaker told me Seth Towns (knee) will not play in the opener. Towns missed all of last season and his status for this year is up in the air. With a healthy Towns, the Crimson are a legit Top 25’ish team. Harvard still has plenty of talent to win the Ivy w/o him.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Seth Towns
11-04-19 06:02 PM - Post#289684    
    In response to 84grad

This is the craziest thing I have ever seen in terms of information on an injury.

 
mrjames 
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Re: Seth Towns
11-04-19 07:05 PM - Post#289692    
    In response to 84grad

Yeah... was wondering when that was gonna drop. Real shame for Seth. I think “status for the year is up in the air” is a bit more ominous sounding than reality, though. I’d be stunned if he didn’t play this season.

 
H78 
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Re: Seth Towns
11-04-19 07:52 PM - Post#289696    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
Yeah... was wondering when that was gonna drop. Real shame for Seth. I think “status for the year is up in the air” is a bit more ominous sounding than reality, though. I’d be stunned if he didn’t play this season.

Sad to hear this. Young man has such promise.


 
84grad 
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12-18-19 03:06 PM - Post#294825    
    In response to H78

Posted today (no surprise):

Jeff Goodman
@GoodmanHoops

Harvard’s Tommy Amaker told me that Seth Towns (knee), who missed all of last season, still hasn’t practiced with the team. Doesn’t sound as if he is close to coming back. Gotta feel for Towns — who may wind up missing two full seasons.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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12-18-19 03:20 PM - Post#294830    
    In response to 84grad

Really disappointing news. Must be incredibly frustrating (devastating?) got Seth.

 
mrjames 
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12-18-19 05:08 PM - Post#294840    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

I think what Goodman closed with is probably what's going to happen, to be honest.

 
palestra38 
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12-18-19 05:32 PM - Post#294844    
    In response to mrjames

Which would leave Towns with 2 years of eligibility as a grad transfer, correct?

 
HGA 
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12-19-19 10:15 AM - Post#294881    
    In response to palestra38

I think only one year. I believe the rule is that you have 5 years to complete four years of your eligibility -- unless there is a special waiver received from the NCAA.

 
rbg 
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Seth Towns
12-19-19 10:24 AM - Post#294884    
    In response to palestra38

I believe you are correct.

If he cannot make it back in early or mid January (which he/they probably know by now) would it be better for his transfer prospects to officially shut it down now and enter the transfer portal or can he wait until February (to end his season) like he did last year?

Edited by rbg on 12-19-19 10:47 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
rbg 
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12-19-19 10:55 AM - Post#294887    
    In response to HGA

What about Patrick Steeves?

Looking at his page on the Harvard site -

2012-2013: Did not see game action
2013-2014: Did not see game action after suffering injury.
2014-2015: Did not see game action after suffering injury
2015-2016: 26 games played

Then, he transfer to GW for 2 seasons
2016-2017 (grad): 27 games played
2017-2018 (grad): 33 games played

 
84grad 
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12-19-19 01:10 PM - Post#294915    
    In response to rbg

If Seth doesn't play, the biggest impact may be that Ledlum plays an even bigger role as a freshman. Similar skills to Seth -- can shoot, drive and rebound. Without a natural third scorer (behind Bryce and Noah), the offense is prone to scoring droughts. I think keeping 2 of those 3 on the court at the same time is essential.

 
digamma 
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12-19-19 02:34 PM - Post#294923    
    In response to 84grad

That's a real bummer. Feel especially for Seth.



 
HGA 
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12-19-19 03:58 PM - Post#294928    
    In response to rbg

He probably received a medical waiver to get an extra year of eligibility -- 6 yrs to complete 4 yrs of eligibility.

 
PennFan10 
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12-19-19 05:19 PM - Post#294932    
    In response to mrjames

  • mrjames Said:
I think what Goodman closed with is probably what's going to happen, to be honest.



So you went from "...I'll be stunned if he doesn't play this season:

To "...may end up missing two full season" in six weeks? What changed? This is surprising.


 
palestra38 
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12-19-19 05:24 PM - Post#294934    
    In response to PennFan10

It's no surprise to us. We saw that injury, and it was a bad one. Why Harvard plays the Belichick game is a mystery, but it even pulls the wool over the eyes of its most ardent supporters.

 
mrjames 
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Seth Towns
12-19-19 07:56 PM - Post#294955    
    In response to PennFan10

For me, exams was always the breaking point. If he’s ready to go post exams, he can have a three month close to the season, show he’s recovered and has game (was plenty of time for Bryce to do so last year), and move on to start his pro career. But if he’s still not close post-exams, that means the recovery still isn’t progressing fast enough, and it probably makes sense for him to go the grad transfer route with two full years (and go grab another degree to protect against not going pro). I trust Goodman’s reporting, and while it’s stunning to hear that he’s still not there, it’d be silly to pretend like we’re not past the point of no return.

While I understand that the outcome fits the “they were deceiving us all along” narrative that is popular amongst some, that’s not what happened here. Sometimes if you forget to apply the Ivy lens to things, you can make assumptions and miss context that can lead to convenient, but incorrect, narratives.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Seth Towns
12-19-19 07:58 PM - Post#294956    
    In response to mrjames

I think you are projecting Mike. You were the one repeatedly predicting he was soon to return and recovering well. We just noted time and time again that neither Seth nor the program issued any comments nor provided information. That was correct.

But I understand your desire that a guy who clearly at one time was the best player in the League come back especially in this summit year for Harvard.

 
SRP 
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12-19-19 09:04 PM - Post#294971    
    In response to palestra38

I agree that if progress had been ongoing, we'd have gotten more information, if only from the player himself. But it's mainly too bad for the kid--hope he recovers fully.

 
mrjames 
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Re: Seth Towns
12-19-19 10:45 PM - Post#294981    
    In response to palestra38

Not sure if you’re on Twitter, but the program provided plenty of information via Jon Rothstein and Jeff Goodman. There have been about 10 updates this season alone.

 
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