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bradley 
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Re: Women&#039;s BB
12-07-19 10:03 PM - Post#294069    
    In response to bradley

Prior to today's games, IL had 3 teams in the top 25 mid-majors, Princeton-4, Penn-14 and Harvard-19. Tigers have now beaten Marist-10, FGU-5 and Roder-23.

Hopefully, non-conference performance for IL teams continue on to give an opportunity for more than one bids regardless of IvyMadness but time will tell.

Today, IL women won 3 of 5 now the women are now 43-23 in non-conference play.

 
SecS3 
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Re: Women&#039;s BB
12-07-19 10:41 PM - Post#294076    
    In response to bradley

Unfortunately most of the Ivies OOC has been played in the bakery so the 43-23 record is a bit deceiving.

For what it's worth, this hasn't been the case for the Tigers. FGCU is now 9-1 and recently won the Cancun Challenge beating Notre Dame in the process. Rider has also played very well since their opening loss to Princeton. A remarkable win at Marist today having to play without Bella again. Obviously need her too be healthy for the upcoming games and of course the league season.

 
bradley 
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Re: Women&#039;s BB
12-08-19 09:04 AM - Post#294092    
    In response to SecS3

I did see where one rating service has the IL women as the 8th ranked conference -- 11th last year. Harvard and Yale and to a somewhat lesser extent Cornell and Columbia have reasonably competitive non-conference schedules although Princeton's schedule is at a different level. Penn's schedule is surprising as they obviously have a good team but it may be more challenging for them to get a bid if they do not win IvyMadness -- not sure that I understand their logic as to scheduling non-conference games.

Based on the reply of last night's game, Tigers definitely need Bella on the offensive end. One weakness of the team right now is shot selection and they are not a great shooting team. With Bella, FG percentage obviously goes up with better looks for 3 pt shooters.

Carla needs to solve offensive shooting funk as it might well determine how far they go if injuries do not stop them. Bella was walking fine last evening on the bench.

 
JDP 
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12-08-19 01:22 PM - Post#294121    
    In response to bradley

Hi bradley,

I provided some stats on the Ivy League board to address some of your scheduling questions. The one point that is somewhat buried is the post is that the Ivies need to play more top 100 teams and win those games … not many Ivy teams have beaten a non-Ivy top 25 team.

Ivies play 24 top 100 gams – 5-12 with 7 to come – Princeton has 4 wins and a win over 101 GW

Princeton has had the hardest schedule early with an average 100 RPI … Penn’s remaining out of conference schedule is 108 … By Realtime RPI both teams will have an average out of conference RPI of around 150 … with Princeton playing the more barbelled schedule

It does make sense … with senior Bella, Princeton should be trying to schedule more top end games, but also needs some easier games to get the full bench into play … it has worked, barring some crazy falloff in the Ivies … they likely can lose 2-3 regular conference games to Harvard, Penn or Yale, and the tournament final and still get an at-large bid … their projected #16 RPI would not likely get below the high 30s and they have a very good NCAA history.

Penn’s out of conference schedule has at its core the Big 5 and Drexel … usually all good teams, but the bottom end have been 125-175 rpi teams not 75-125 rpi as in the past …If Penn knew Kayla as a freshman would come in and average nearly 20 ppg, then I suspect a few games would have gotten swapped. But as Penn has played really well in the wins, they have gotten a lot of players (some who have not played much in past years) valuable looks and playing time for what should be a very competitive Ivy season and the remainder of the city series Drexel (40), Nova (147) and Temple (48)



 
bradley 
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12-10-19 05:27 PM - Post#294359    
    In response to JDP

Bella is not playing again but she is walking.

Tigers played a lazy first half both defensively and offensively but they had a good final 2 minutes to go up 20-11.

 
bradley 
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12-10-19 05:55 PM - Post#294364    
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Poor play in 2nd qtr as well, 31-20 at half time. This game should be a wide margin victory. Carla may have to get them focused at half time.

3rd and 4th quarters have been a strength for this y-t-d but they need to get out of la la land.

 
bradley 
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12-10-19 06:46 PM - Post#294371    
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Tigers woke up.

 
bradley 
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12-10-19 07:28 PM - Post#294375    
    In response to bradley

When will Bella return? Direct response: SOON.

 
Tiger69 
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12-10-19 07:52 PM - Post#294379    
    In response to bradley

Per Coach Berube she hopes to be back for Penn State. Wasn’t needed tonight.

 
bradley 
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12-11-19 09:04 AM - Post#294439    
    In response to Tiger69

Women have moved up to #28 in the coaches poll with Florida Gulf Coast at #26 even with the Tigers winning rather easily at home, 14 pts, without Bella against FGU but FGU had some big time wins against Power 5 competition.

AP has FGU at #28 without any votes for the Tigers -- no surprise.

Women have the next two games against traditionally strong Big 5 teams, PSU and Missouri, that have height and talent but disappointing seasons so far. Missouri lost by 12 pts against Courtney's UNC team in the finals of the Cancun Tournament.

If, big if, the Tigers win both games and with a few good breaks, they could get within to #25 in the coaches poll. They do need Bella for both of these games, especially Missouri, as a defensive presence.

The obvious goal is to receive the highest rank possible if they get into the NCAAW Tournament. They may have the opportunity to secure a rank that has not been seen in a long long time in the IL. The quality of the IL women's play is a big plus for the Tigers but will also present challenges to win games within the league.

 
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