bradley
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01-18-20 05:54 PM - Post#297022
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Pennsylvania has a fish cake for lunch tomorrow at the Palestra by the name of Saint Joseph's.
The result should answer your question.
After watching the Quakerites play St. Joe's, it did provide some answers and as well as creating some concerns relative to the Tigers' sweep.
After watching the Yale/Brown and Harvard/Dartmouth games, I thought that Yale played the highest level game to date in the IL but it is very early and totally inconclusive. Harvard needs a healthy Aiken.
In relative terms, the Cornell/Columbia women's game may have been the best played game of the weekend. Columbia is going to be a challenge for Bella and crew as they are athletic and can shoot 3s'. Fortunately, they do not have a BIG to confront Bella unlike Yale and Penn but they play at a high level with total commitment.
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Eric Von Zipper
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01-18-20 09:30 PM - Post#297055
In response to bradley
St. Joe's had lost 12 out of their last 13, most by double digits.
Pennsylvania had no answer for that kid Daly, nor did Pennsylvania coach Donahue try to stop him.
Donahue's an odd coach.
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Eric Von Zipper
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01-18-20 09:30 PM - Post#297056
In response to bradley
St. Joe's had lost 12 out of their last 13, most by double digits.
Pennsylvania had no answer for that kid Daly, nor did Pennsylvania coach Donahue try to stop him.
Donahue's an odd coach.
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Eric Von Zipper
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01-18-20 09:39 PM - Post#297058
In response to Eric Von Zipper
“The defense, in general, isn’t what it needs to be,†Penn coach Steve Donahue said. “We’re just not mentally competing as well as I would like on the defensive end.â€
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Chip Bayers
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Pennsylvania Redux
01-19-20 12:51 AM - Post#297068
In response to Eric Von Zipper
You can give Daly 30 and still beat St. Joe’s, although it would have been nice to hold him under his averages. It’s the 57 surrendered to less talented guys that was the real problem.
As you can see from their schedule they’ve lost to no truly horrible teams (hell, they haven’t played anyone worst than Lafayette yet, a team Penn and Princeton failed to defeat) and somehow have managed 2 top 100 wins in their 4 victories.
Edited by Chip Bayers on 01-19-20 12:57 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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bradley
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01-19-20 11:03 AM - Post#297074
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
I watched some of Yale-Brown on replay. We match up well in the post and at guard. The question is who guards Bruner? I suspect it will be Tosan, at least to start.
I also watched the Dartmouth/Harvard game to compare and contrast Harvard vs Yale. Both teams play defense very well although somewhat different styles. Chris Lewis has made some significant improvements on the offensive end -- it will be a good battle between Lewis and Richmond. Yale plays very good and very intense team defense and Bruner is a force and a different type of player.
What strikes me as a difference is the ball movement and passing by Yale. They keep the ball moving and share the ball very well.
A key to the games between Harvard, Yale and the Tigers may well be match ups.
For the Tigers, will they move the ball and continue to focus on inside to outside especially against Yale. Additionally, will they play defense with intensity and focus?
The Tigers focus should be getting good looks whether a 3pt or 2 pt shot rather than shooting 3s vs. 2s' or vice-versa. Shooting percentages go up with better shot selection needless to say. The Tigers should not focus on analytics but focus on taking good shots.
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Tiger69
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01-19-20 01:17 PM - Post#297077
In response to bradley
After getting excited about our two blowout wins over Penn I am now brought to earth by their fans who have informed us all about how miserable (except poor AJ!) they are. I am now concerned about our upcoming Div III game.😳
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1LotteryPick1969
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01-19-20 01:47 PM - Post#297081
In response to bradley
Dartmouth gave Harvard trouble, and Brown gave Yale trouble. Are we not at least as good as Brown & Dartmouth? So we could go down to the wire against either. In that scenario luck (think 3 point shots) and coaching are huge. Against Harvard we could get lucky, but against Yale we always seem to be out-coached
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bradley
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01-19-20 02:15 PM - Post#297084
In response to Tiger69
After getting excited about our two blowout wins over Penn I am now brought to earth by their fans who have informed us all about how miserable (except poor AJ!) they are. I am now concerned about our upcoming Div III game.😳
I remember a Quakerite fan who suggested that the Tigers were going to get trashed at Jadwin in the rematch who has subsequently disappeared on the Princeton board -- not unexpected.
Seriously, it would not be surprising if the Quakers make a comeback similar to last year based on their seniors as well as the overall strength of the league or lack thereof. Additionally, the Tigers have a long way with no guaranty.
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PennFan10
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01-19-20 05:11 PM - Post#297093
In response to bradley
Yale dominated the second half vs Brown and the Eli’s are head and shoulders better than any other Ivy team at this point. They are decidedly better on defense than Harvard, who is the next best defensive team in the league. Yale is clear team to beat this year.
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Eric Von Zipper
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01-22-20 05:09 PM - Post#297215
In response to PennFan10
VCU had no trouble spanking the Hawks in Philadelphia last night, holding them to 60 points, and covering the spread.
Held Daly to 8 points.
It's pretty clear Pennsylvania has defensive problems.
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bradley
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01-22-20 05:09 PM - Post#297216
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Mitch Henderson show last night not only had Mitch but also Coach Jones and Jose Morales. Morales is an interesting and lively guy. Coach Henderson talked about how he can pull his hair out when Jose plays out of control which does occur. He also obviously has an upside in making steals and being fearless.
Coach talked about the contribution of Schwieger as well as his unique skill sets and willingness to share the basketball. He related Schwieger to Weisz and Bray as to skill sets. Richmond always gets praise from everyone as to his work ethic and commitment.
Looking back to Schwieger's freshmen class, he was the lowly 2 rated guy from North Carolina with Much and Jerome viewed as future starters. It does seem that Mitch, by and large, does a good job in not only finding athletic players but the Weisz and Schwiegers of the world. The overall athleticism of Tiger teams continues to grow and this group has the physical tools to compete. The question is can Mitch get them to play together as a group.
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PennFan10
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01-22-20 08:47 PM - Post#297220
In response to Eric Von Zipper
VCU had no trouble spanking the Hawks in Philadelphia last night, holding them to 60 points, and covering the spread.
Held Daly to 8 points.
It's pretty clear Pennsylvania has defensive problems.
You needed to see that result to come that conclusion? You must have attended Princeton.
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Tiger69
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01-22-20 09:33 PM - Post#297224
In response to PennFan10
One can almost forgive P10 for his snarky mood given Penn’s disappointing play.😼
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PennFan10
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01-22-20 11:54 PM - Post#297231
In response to Tiger69
Indeed. I don't many shots and most of them are therapeutic in nature.
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JadwinGeorge
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01-23-20 12:14 PM - Post#297242
In response to bradley
How is that "the question"? Do you think this group will not "play together" for some reason? Why not just say "time will tell" and move on....
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Tiger69
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01-23-20 01:40 PM - Post#297243
In response to JadwinGeorge
Ah yes. Brad forgot to add that. But, he always leaves us with some open statement of hope. That’s in short supply over on the Penn board.
Edited by Tiger69 on 01-23-20 01:44 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Eric Von Zipper
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01-23-20 06:32 PM - Post#297254
In response to PennFan10
VCU had no trouble spanking the Hawks in Philadelphia last night, holding them to 60 points, and covering the spread.
Held Daly to 8 points.
It's pretty clear Pennsylvania has defensive problems.
You needed to see that result to come that conclusion? You must have attended Princeton.
All I received was a "Certificate of Attendance".
Something about night putting with the 16 yo daughter of my economics professor.
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1LotteryPick1969
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01-23-20 07:38 PM - Post#297260
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Don't be obsessed with your desires, Eric.
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SRP
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01-24-20 10:45 PM - Post#297344
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Saw the second half of the second Yale-Brown game. Yale looked good, even with Bruner not scoring. Aside from playing tough defense, the thing Jones seems to be very good at is having his players be unselfish without losing their individual scoring swagger. So they don't force things much but are ready to step up when the situation calls for it.
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