bradley
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03-07-20 06:27 PM - Post#303451
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Sloppy lazy 1st qtr even with Bella doing well 8pts/4 rebounds; 17-14.
Carla needs them to tighten up defense and protect the ball offensively.
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bradley
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03-07-20 08:40 PM - Post#303508
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That was in the top 5 of poorly played games this year. They will not win against a #11 or #12 seed in round 1 playing like that but today's performance gives Carla some ammunition to get them refocused which should be helpful. They are playing overconfident.
They should be fine but....
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bradley
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03-10-20 04:40 PM - Post#304067
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You never know but the cancellation of IvyMadness will probably have little if any effect on Princeton's NCAAW seed unless they lost. A win against Columbia in the semis would have no effect and a win against Yale/Penn would have helped a little bit but a loss would have been a problem for sure.
Coaches Poll has the Tigers remaining with a #17 ranking -- AP is a #22. Nolan has them with a #9 rpi.
ESPN has the Tigers as a #6 seed which is where they probably will be assigned. ESPN has them currently playing against #11 Tennessee in the 1st round and #3 Northwestern, #11 rpi, in the second round.
Naturally, all this assumes that they will play the tournament.
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03-10-20 07:14 PM - Post#304100
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The Charlie Creme Bracketology also has it that if Princeton were to get to the Sweet Sixteen, they would most likely face UConn, and you'd have the cliche storyline of the old coach against his protege - Geno v. Carla. Good for marketing.
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bradley
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03-10-20 10:55 PM - Post#304143
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The Charlie Creme Bracketology also has it that if Princeton were to get to the Sweet Sixteen, they would most likely face UConn, and you'd have the cliche storyline of the old coach against his protege - Geno v. Carla. Good for marketing.
It would be really cool if somehow Carla could face Geno in the Sweet 16. Tigers would probably get blown out but it would be a marketing coup for the Tigers and IL. It would also be cool if they played a storied program like Tennessee in Round #1. It is distinctly possible that Tigers lose a round 1 or 2 game but it is better for the program to get recognition against established programs -- especially if they make a run.
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bradley
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03-11-20 06:09 PM - Post#304311
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Bella and Carlie were unanimous 1st team selections -- congratulations. Bella was named POY for the 3rd straight year and now is a 4 time 1st team award winner and she was previously ROY. Bella is also one of the 5 finalists for the national mid-major award, Becky Hammon award. Carla was also named as Coach of the Year which is truly impressive. Julia Cunningham received Honorable Mention as a sophomore. If there was any surprise for Carla, it was that a Tiger did not receive Defensive POY which was given to Penn's Parker.
On Coach Berube podcast, she commented how disappointed that the team is not playing in Boston this upcoming weekend. She praised her team and coaching staff for their commitment.
Carla was going to have a practice today and sounds like she needs to get the team refocused for the NCAAW Tournament. Not sure how everything is going to play out with NCAAW.
Who knows if the Tournament will be held. Most important issue is obviously everyone's health. It would be great to see the Tigers finish out Bella's career but far more important is health vs a basketball game(s).
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bradley
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03-11-20 06:23 PM - Post#304312
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One would get a feeling that Berube is not all that fond of these type of awards as what counts in her head is wins and losses by the team not the individual. I really do not care as to who gets recognized or not as it is normally offensively number driven vs total contribution value of a player.
Obviously, the Tigers would not have the 10th rpi team in the country if it was driven by only 2 IL 1st teamers and a honorable mention player. These awards are nice but sometimes non-sensical and really do not matter.
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bradley
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03-12-20 07:02 PM - Post#304495
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Tigers will not be able to show the rest of the country how good this team was but it is understandable and smart to cancel the NCAAW Tournament as safety must always come first.
Bella also has received notification that she is one of the 5 finalists for the Katrina McClain Power Forward Award. She will be playing in the WNBA next season which should be fun to watch her play at the next level.
Tigers will be good next year but not as good as this year plus there will be strong competition from Columbia, Penn and others. IL women are definitely on the upswing but it is unlikely that there will be a team as dominant as this year's Tigers.
Final plus for the Tigers is Coach Berube.
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whitakk
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03-12-20 11:48 PM - Post#304510
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One shot away from becoming the first Ivy League team ever to finish a season undefeated.
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SecS3
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03-13-20 11:12 AM - Post#304541
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Ummmmm...You weren't around in 2014-15?
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Women -- IL Play
03-13-20 11:17 AM - Post#304543
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Key word is "finish"…2014-15 team ended the season with a loss in the NCAAs at 31-1.
If this year's team had beaten Iowa, with the postseason canceled they would have finished the season undefeated at 27-0 with no more games to play
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Re: Women -- IL Play
03-13-20 01:17 PM - Post#304554
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Sorry about that. I guess I don't look at it that way. It would have required the dreaded asterisk if that were the case.
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welcometothejungle
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03-13-20 01:40 PM - Post#304557
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Really a shame that this team's season ended like this, given how well they performed in the regular season. Would have been fun to watch them in the NCAAs.
Similar to other mid major teams on the men's side like Dayton, San Diego State, BYU who had some of their best teams ever, nationally ranked teams that would have been very competitive in the tournament this season, but won't be able to see them do it. Unfortunate all around
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bradley
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03-17-20 09:02 PM - Post#304777
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Interesting yet painful to watch simulations of the NCAAW's Tournament.
Most of the simulations have Tigers as a #5 seed. On the women's side, it appears that they will show results day by day.
One site ran the IvyMadness Tournament results and had the Tigers upset Harvard by 2 pts and then lose by 15 to Yale. Sites have Yale as a #12 or #13 seed although these sites needed to project the results of conference tournaments for one bid leagues on the mens and womens side.
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03-27-20 10:02 PM - Post#305180
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Fansided - High Hoops is a website that provided in-depth coverage of the women's college basketball scene. They have been running a slow methodical simulation of the NCAAW Tournament. Their model currently the Tiger women facing South Carolina, #1 seed, in the Sweet 16 after beating #12 seed Dayton by 17 points in round one and Iowa by 13 pts on Iowa's home court.
Although the simulation is only a projection, it just raises questions if the Tigers could have truly made a run in the tournament. If Harvard had been injury free on the men's side, it may have been possible to have two IL teams playing in the Sweet 16 with obviously Harvard generating more publicity for the IL based on the men's tournament. It is going to be very tough to create a similar situation during the next several years - the league could use the PR,
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whitakk
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04-04-20 05:55 PM - Post#305781
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Not the article I expected to write when I signed up to cover the Ivy League Tournament for PAW, but here we are:
https://paw.princeton.edu/article/womens-basket bal...
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JadwinGeorge
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04-04-20 07:11 PM - Post#305791
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Excellent reporting
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bradley
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04-05-20 07:16 PM - Post#305852
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Very nice articles indeed.
It will be interesting to see on April 17th if Bella will be the first IL player drafted in the 1st round since, I believe, Armond Hill in 1976. She did receive recognition on the AP Honorable All American list but her injury this year plus her unselfish play hurt her numbers. She would have had the opportunity to go against big time competition at the NCAAW Tournament if held. She is one of the five finalists for the PF player of the year as well -- truly a missed opportunity for the Tigers and IL.
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04-13-20 08:19 AM - Post#306166
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WNBA draft is Friday -- most Mock Draft Boards have Bella going in the 1st round somewhere between 7-11 slots although one Board has her as #5. The summary is that she is the one of the players that may have a greater upside than others based on her multi-dimensional skills. There is some mention that she has faced good competition but not great competition due to IL pedigree.
It is probably not as important as to what slot she goes but which team she is drafted by --good fit. Looking at prior drafts, there is certainly no consistent correlation as to performance vs. where you were picked although there is more of a correlation than the NBA.
Draft will be obviously remote and covered by ESPN.
Hopefully, Olivia Miles -- #2 ranked 2021 5 star recruit decides to come to Princeton although unlikely. She stated that she was coming to Princeton in all likelihood prior to Courtney leaving. Princeton and UNC are on her final 5 schools.
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