welcometothejungle
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02-25-20 08:22 PM - Post#301744
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Very strong close to the quarter, with the Tigers getting hot from 3 and pushing the lead to 21-8 at the end of the first quarter
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Tiger69
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02-25-20 08:31 PM - Post#301745
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26-8 four minutes into 2nd quarter🤪ðŸ…. Does Berube cast spells?
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Tiger69
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02-25-20 08:38 PM - Post#301746
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32-8. Penn scoreless for 9 minutes.
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welcometothejungle
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Women -- IL Play
02-25-20 08:39 PM - Post#301748
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Defense is really locked in right now for the Tigers. Penn's also missed a few shots from in close in the 2nd, but the Tigers are doing a great job forcing turnovers
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welcometothejungle
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02-25-20 08:44 PM - Post#301749
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Penn scores just 5 points, all from Padilla, in the 2nd quarter and only makes 1 FG. 34-13 Tigers heading into the locker room
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bradley
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Re: Women -- IL Play
02-25-20 08:48 PM - Post#301751
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Tigers played very well other than the close of the 1sr half. Padilla is an impressive player. Bella took Parker out of the game so far but it is early. Penn is a good team with talent and a very good coach but Tiger defense challenges everything. Never take anything for granted. I doubt that Carla will allow it but 20 minutes to play.
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Tiger69
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02-25-20 08:51 PM - Post#301754
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Tigers 34-13 at half.
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bradley
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02-25-20 09:01 PM - Post#301756
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Men’s team is here - impressive!
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welcometothejungle
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02-25-20 09:22 PM - Post#301758
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The men's and women's teams are both really supportive of each other, both have been at each other's games during the non-conference season when their schedules aren't conflicted. Even a couple of years ago when the men's team didn't qualify for Ivy Madness, a group of men's players went to the Palestra to support the women's team.
I am curious to see if the Ivy League scheduling change next season makes it easier to follow both men's and women's teams. The way it is now, I feel like every weekend I can only really focus on one game because the men and women typically play at the same time or within an hour of each other. And the men's/women's teams never get to watch or support each other because always in opposite locations with the exceptions of the rare men's/women's back to backs.
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welcometothejungle
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02-25-20 09:52 PM - Post#301763
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Wow, 80-44 final, Tigers rolled the whole night. With 4 games left in the regular season, the Tigers have won their first 10 Ivy games by double digits, with the smallest margin of victory being 14 at Harvard. They ranked 8th in the Massey Computer rankings entering tonight and may move up even more by a function of the margin of victory after tonight
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bradley
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02-25-20 11:02 PM - Post#301771
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Spent a fair amount of time on the floor to try to better understand why the Tigers are so good as they were playing Top 50 competition tonight.
It certainly helps to have talent and the Tigers do have a late 1st round WNBA draft pick at 6'5" plus Littlefield has a real gift for the game at PG even shooting 1-11 tonight. But Penn has a lot of talent especially Padilla but they also have several other good players.
Why? Although Penn played hard, the Tiger's intensity level was off the charts. Total domination of the boards, contesting every pass and every shot with few exceptions. Why? My best guess is that it is simply a function of how well Carla and her staff teaches the players how to play defense plus being able to connect with her players. I watched her constructively get into Carlie's face when she made a poor defensive play at the end of the 1st half even being up by 21 pts. Coach has a gift and gives the team confidence and a mission.
Great teams are always fun to watch.
I was sitting with some Quakerite fans when the score was 7-6 and they were pretty confident but one could tell that the Tigers were mentally and physically at a very high level from the opening tap.
Tigers moved up from 14 to 11 on Nolan and Penn moved up from 52 to 46 with the loss. The caliber of IL women's play this season is helping all teams from a rpi perspective.
Do the Tigers have an opportunity to make a run at the NCAAW tournament - perhaps but they still have to improve significantly on the offensive end. Time will tell.
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bradley
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02-26-20 09:46 AM - Post#301779
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Final comment about last night is that the bench play by Tigers vs. Penn was so disproportionate that it was basically 8 players against 6 players. Freshmen Ellie Mitchell had 13 pts/ 8 rebounds/ and 6 steals for instance.
Padilla single handily gave Penn temporary life in the 3rd quarter by hitting 3 3s' in a row with a hand in her face. Other than the 1st qtr against Dartmouth when they hit 4 out of 5 3s and towards the end of the Iowa game, no team has shot 3 pointers against the Tigers. It gets back to the debate on other forums regarding randomness and making shots.
The rules of randomness probably apply to some degree if the opposing team does not not play great defense. After watching the Tiger women play this year, shutdown defense greatly reduces, almost eliminates, the randomness factor certainly over the course of a game. Teams actually have difficulty even getting 3 pt shots off against the Tigers in addition to 2 pointers.
Tiger's offense is not a great high flying offense but if you constantly win by greater than 20 points, by definition you are taking so called randomness out of a game. Granted, it is probably easier in the women's game with less one on one play. It will be far more challenging if and when they play a #3 or #4 seed in the NCAAW Tournament.
Hopefully, Mitch learned something last evening after sitting thru the entire game.
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Tiger84
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02-26-20 12:38 PM - Post#301791
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Maybe the best thing about last night's game is that they went 11/22 from 3pt range. That's been missing all year, since Gabrielle Rush graduated. If they can continue to shoot like that, Sweet 16 is a real possibility. Without it, it's an uphill climb.
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SecS3
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02-26-20 01:12 PM - Post#301795
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Padilla getting hot in the third quarter was probably a blessing in disguise for the Tigers as they will undoubtedly run into someone that is capable of doing that in the tournament. While the team's offensive struggles at times can indeed be frustrating, I think this game just further proved that if the offense is making some shots and playing at a reasonably competent rate, they are pretty much impossible to beat in the league or by teams on par with Ivy teams. And most of the teams in the league are more than respectable. It's tough when probably the only chance you have is hoping that Princeton's offense is really off because with that defense, you're never out of a game. Puts all the more pressure on your defense to try and get stops and you know that's a tall order when Bella is on the other team. You have to be a really good team to beat the Tigers if they're shooting the ball half way decent. Oh and Ellie Mitchell is the Energizer Bunny on steroids.
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Tiger69
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02-26-20 02:03 PM - Post#301816
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Looking forward, it will be interesting to see if Berube is as good a recruiter as Banghart. Past success should work in her favor. If she is, good times ahead for Tiger women cagers.
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bradley
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02-26-20 02:31 PM - Post#301823
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Very good question indeed if Carla will be a very good recruiter. She is more laid back than Courtney personality wise other than how she coaches. She seems to set a very close knit family experience. Was looking at what the Tiger coaches and team were wearing last night.
Maybe, a greater concern might be if a Power 5 school identifies her as someone who can take their program to a different level. If she does damage in the NCAAW Tournament, it will give her greater exposure.
What was surreal last night was that Penn players, even when they had open shots rushed shots and missed them based on a Tiger prowling over their shoulder from the opening whistle. Reminded one of QB Darnold seeing ghosts against the Patriots.
If they ever get to play against the Oregons' of the world, those players will play with a different mindset for sure.
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Tiger69
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02-26-20 07:01 PM - Post#301864
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I am hopeful that she won’t jump at the first offer, but stick around a few years to build on what Courtney left her. It is always nice to have coaches get bonded before they move up as they may send back dividends by identifying good recruits not suitable to their new position.
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JDP
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02-26-20 08:09 PM - Post#301868
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Given how long Carla spent at her prior institution - with tremendous long term success - i suspect her utility function is not driven by compensation ... but by the quality of the program she can lead, the overall institution brand and family considerations
Being a coach in the #8 conference with strong institutional support is not a bad gig ... there are likely a limited number of power 5 and Big East jobs that are appealing to Carla and would be a great fit for her ... but those don’t come along that often or at the right time for a move.
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bradley
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02-26-20 11:11 PM - Post#301884
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If the Tigers go undefeated, it will be ironic that they will be playing on a visiting court similar to the Tiger men 4 years ago as part of the lunacy of IvyMadness --- great reward for going undefeated.
Fortunately, if Carla's group goes undefeated, they will still go to the Big Dance unlike the men. For seeding purposes, it would obviously increase the odds to win IvyMadness if they had homecourt but that does not matter in Robin's World.
In fairness, IvyMadness is less painful when the league has the opportunity to send two representatives.
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SecS3
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02-27-20 12:13 AM - Post#301888
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Can we at least let Coach Berube finish her first season before we start speculating as to where she will go next. If she can somehow manage to bring in Olivia Miles I think all questions about her ability to recruit will be answered. That's probably a long shot though. The real test will be after next year because all of this year's and next year's recruits probably already had Princeton on their radar before Berube was hired.
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