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Username Post: Women -- IL Play        (Topic#23809)
bradley 
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02-27-20 03:17 PM - Post#301963    
    In response to SecS3

On GoPrincetons.com website, a wonderful video which illustrates the special relationship of Bella and her Dad, Mark, who was a 2 time All American at Duke and 5 years in the NBA. He is literally at every game and provides Bella with so much support and positive reinforcement. Perhaps, someone can cut and paste the video.

On Carla's podcast, she shared that Bella, Bauer, and Carlie had to be quarantined prior to the start of 5 games in 8 days due to a stomach virus just before the Harvard game last Friday night. She also talked about the quality of team play against Penn and especially the contribution of Mitchell and the bench.

 
westcoast 
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02-27-20 03:51 PM - Post#301968    
    In response to bradley

Here is a link to the Bella/Mark Alarie video:

https://youtu.be/Upclr_Ov34I

 
bradley 
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02-27-20 09:33 PM - Post#301986    
    In response to westcoast

ESPN just came out with the leading candidate for POY for each conference with a back up.

AS to the IL, they had Bella as #1 with Parker from Penn as #2. Surprised by Parker as I thought Emsbo from Yale or Padilla from Penn would be #2 but these selections are so difficult to make as they are just an opinion. It is the old Earnie Banks debate if he deserved two MVPs for a last place team -- so judgmental

Statistically, Bella's offensive stats are less than last year's numbers but so much has to do with the role assigned by the coach to the player and the team.

Always strikes me as the best way to evaluate POY is go to the eight IL coaches and ask them who they would take in a pick up game as #1 and #2. You would think that IL coaches would pick Bella.

Over the last few games, you can see that Carla is turnin to Bella especgially in key moments. As the competition gets tougher, I suspect that Bella will receive the ball more and more similar to what happened when the Tigers faced their most challenging competition of the year against Iowa on the road.

 
rbg 
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02-27-20 09:53 PM - Post#301987    
    In response to bradley

Alarie is the obvious top choice.

For me, #2 would be a toss-up between Littlefield and Padilla. Padilla's numbers are huge, but Littlefield has good numbers, runs the offense and is stronger on defense. If I had to make a choice, I would go with Littlefield.

Parker has put up some good numbers, but she has been much less effective and consistent this year.

Emsbo has improved from last year and had a very good year but Barahman still seems to be the leader of Yale's team.

While not in the mix for POY or the backup, there are other very talented players who will be in the mix for all-league honors.

Columbia - Hsu and Dunn.
Harvard - Mullaney and Boehm
Cornell - Widmann and Bagwell-Katalinich
Brown - Gaziano
Dartmouth - McKenna



 
whitakk 
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02-28-20 09:24 AM - Post#301993    
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Her Hoop Stats has Princeton #6 in their power rating, ahead of Mississippi State, Stanford, Louisville. (South Dakota also representing mid-majors at #8.)

 
welcometothejungle 
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02-28-20 10:44 AM - Post#302008    
    In response to whitakk

Also #7 on the Massey Ratings, which has them as the #1 defense and #45 offense

 
bradley 
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02-28-20 11:35 AM - Post#302018    
    In response to whitakk

Unfortunately, the Tiger's incredible rpi ranking has not correlated to the AP and to a lesser degree the USA Today Coaches Poll. Additionally, it has not been translated into the NCAA Selection committee ranking of the top 16 teams. I looked up the names of the members of the selection committee and of the 10 or so members only one is from the northeast, A-10. There are some mid-major representatives but they are from the South or West.

If the Tigers keep on winning and a few teams just above them lose, the Tigers could crawl into a #5 seed but more likely will be a 6 seed. A mid-major and a very good Missouri State team lost last night which helps. The problem and challenge is that the Tigers cannot lose one additional game including IvyMadness to be a #6 or #5 seed.

They may be actually better off being a #6 seed as he keeps them away from # #1 seed for the first 3 games but one never knows.

The IL women have never enjoyed such a high conference rating so there may be a lot of legitimate disbelievers. The best way to win over the NCAA selection committee down the road is for the Tigers to make a good run in this tournament. It is certainly an argument as to why the IL should send it's best performing team to the NCAA tournament especially if the league is a one bid league. Need to overcome doubters that are out there regarding IL play.

 
bradley 
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02-28-20 07:24 PM - Post#302069    
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Got off to a very strong start, 14-0, and offense was in sync but did not sustain the offense over the last several minutes. Defense was solid, 21-7 after 1st qtr. Bella and Myers with 6 pts and Cunningham with 5 -- Littlefield is still off on her shots.

 
Tiger69 
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02-28-20 07:33 PM - Post#302071    
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Off to the races 31-9 with about 5 minutes left in half

 
bradley 
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02-28-20 07:50 PM - Post#302072    
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Defense remains in a shutdown mode, 37-12. Offense turned the ball over too many times in the 1st half. Need to protect the ball against tougher competition in the tournaments.

Bella is picking up her game as the season is winding down -- 11pts/5rb/2blocks/2steals . She is now 34 pts from all time scoring record even with 12 missed games over the last two years. She will probably be the first 3 time POY in the IL as well as being ROY.

Announcer mentioned that no IL team, men or women, have achieved a higher rpi than Tiger women currently have.

 
Tiger69 
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02-28-20 08:13 PM - Post#302076    
    In response to Tiger69

HT P 37 B 12 Brown has 16 turnovers.

 
bradley 
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02-28-20 10:42 PM - Post#302225    
    In response to Tiger69

Mission accomplished with an easy win --- Brown has some talented players.

With the 17 pt Yale win over Penn, Tigers have already earned at least a tie for IL regular season crown.

Columbia beat Harvard on the road so it looks like they are in IvyMadness and Columbia has dramatically improved recently. Tiger game against Columbia on the road next week may be competitive and tomorrow night's game at home against Yale could be as well.

Defense was not as intense in the 2nd half tonight but game was well in hand and subs got a lot of play time.



 
SecS3 
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02-28-20 11:17 PM - Post#302240    
    In response to bradley

With Penn's loss, the Tigers won the title outright. They're four up with three to go.

 
whitakk 
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02-29-20 01:29 AM - Post#302281    
    In response to SecS3

Remember when multiple voters picked them to finish third or worse in the preseason poll?

 
SecS3 
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02-29-20 01:47 PM - Post#302346    
    In response to whitakk

Yes, and that was absolutely mind boggling at the time and is even more so now. Apparently they thought Bella left early for the WNBA. Otherwise, SERIOUSLY??!!

 
bradley 
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02-29-20 05:34 PM - Post#302377    
    In response to SecS3

I do think that Princeton having a new coach may have hampered expectations for the Tigers plus Penn was expected to be a more formidable opponent based on having key players back with the addition of Padilla. Predictions are significantly off on the men's side as well although injuries have played a more significant factor on the men's side.

Looking back, I had fairly high expectations for Bella and crew although what convinced me very early is that without Bella, they beat 3 very good teams with two of them on the road. Most convincing was their dominating win against FGCU, #30 rpi. It meant that Carlie and the other players could beat top 75 teams by themselves. Throw in Bella on the defensive end, and you have the nation's leading defensive team in the country.

Additionally, one could have predicted greater success for the Tigers based on Bella making the Pan Am team and having the 3rd highest minutes even though she was 6 man. Coaches also had on the floor in crunch time at the end of tight games vs. headed Miami Center which said a lot. Pan Am coaches had her playing center also even though it is not her natural position.

Based on five games remaining, Tigers probably are going to experience one or two tough games which is a good thing to get them ready for NCAAW Tournament. When they played Penn on Tuesday, it was helpful that they had a bad defensive 1st half against Dartmouth on the prior Friday and a sloppy second half Saturday night against Harvard.

It could be a drawback when they play in the big tournament that they have not experienced 4th qtr pressure, ie. Iowa and Seton Hall.

Many of these predictions, especially with IL teams, are perhaps off base partially due to real knowledge. They probably make some of their judgements off raw numbers alone versus considering all factors including the human eye and what is in the heart and head of players/teams and finally, Coach Berube's performance has been simply outstanding - coaches matter.

 
welcometothejungle 
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02-29-20 06:10 PM - Post#302384    
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Slow start again against Yale, 8-0 Bulldogs with 5:41 to play, Tigers 0/6 from the field

 
welcometothejungle 
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Women -- IL Play
02-29-20 06:40 PM - Post#302388    
    In response to welcometothejungle

Grace Stone's 3 gives the Tigers their first lead of the game with 4 minutes left at 21-19, and the Tigers are back on track behind a typically strong 2nd quarter. Outscoring Yale 13-3 in the 2nd Q with 1:30 to play, Tigers now lead 27-19

 
welcometothejungle 
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02-29-20 06:44 PM - Post#302389    
    In response to welcometothejungle

Tigers hold Yale to 1/15 from the field and just 3 points in the 2nd quarter and 27-19 is out halftime score

 
bradley 
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02-29-20 06:55 PM - Post#302392    
    In response to welcometothejungle

I take everything back regarding the possible benefits of being in a tough contest towards the end of the game after watching the beginning of this game.

Be careful what you ask for -- I guess.

 
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