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Bison137 
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12-07-21 11:59 PM - Post#330866    
    In response to Paulie777

  • Bison137 Said:
  • HuskyColonial Said:


Defense isn’t played. Period. Davis was an assistant on Bison teams that played smothering defenses. This is one way in which his arrogance manifests.




Bison now #313 in the nation in the Pomeroy rankings. Worst rank in the program's history.

Team ranks #358 in the nation in steals by their defense. That is LAST in the nation. And to complement that stat, they are in the bottom 30 in the nation in allowing the opposition to steal the ball. That's a difference of six possessions a game - just due to steals. Hard to make up. To some extent, those are functions of coaching and the system being played.

Team is also in the bottom 25 in the nation in defense (points allowed per possession) and also in the bottom 25 in shots blocked.

Fire ND.





Updating the current Bison ranking in various defensive stats:

- OVERALL DEFENSE: 337th (out of358)

- TURNOVERS BY OPPONENT: 358th (out of 358), i.e. dead last in forcing turnovers.

- STEALS: 354th.

- BLOCKS: 342nd

- DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING: 337TH

- DEFENSE AGAINST 2-POINTERS: 209th

Two possible conclusions: (a) coaching staff is incapable of coaching any defense; or (b) staff is incapable of recruiting players who can play defense. I lean more towards (a). I think in six weeks, Trevor Woodruff could have this team playing passable defense.

- - - - -

For a little balance, let me add that the Bison rank 317th in the nation in offensive rebounding and 329th in the nation in preventing steals by the opponent.




 
Bison54 
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12-08-21 12:32 AM - Post#330868    
    In response to Bison137

I hope Jermaine Truax reads this board


 
Paulie777 
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Fire ND!
12-08-21 12:36 AM - Post#330869    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:


Updating the current Bison ranking in various defensive stats:

- OVERALL DEFENSE: 337th (out of358)

- TURNOVERS BY OPPONENT: 358th (out of 358), i.e. dead last in forcing turnovers.

- STEALS: 354th.

- BLOCKS: 342nd

- DEFENSIVE REBOUNDING: 337TH

- DEFENSE AGAINST 2-POINTERS: 209th

Two possible conclusions: (a) coaching staff is incapable of coaching any defense; or (b) staff is incapable of recruiting players who can play defense. I lean more towards (a). I think in six weeks, Trevor Woodruff could have this team playing passable defense.

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For a little balance, let me add that the Bison rank 317th in the nation in offensive rebounding and 329th in the nation in preventing steals by the opponent.




Inductive problem solving: A la Trevor Woodruff idea.

1. Get Flannery, who is probably mortified by these numbers from his protege, to take over the coaching duties.

2.Hire Paulson back, who could remedy these numbers in 21 to 30 days. A win/win for both Paulson and Bucknell




Edited by Paulie777 on 12-08-21 12:37 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison89 
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12-10-21 06:56 AM - Post#331094    
    In response to Paulie777

Does Davis have 1 or 2 more years left on his contract?
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
The Psycho of Sojka 
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01-01-22 08:43 PM - Post#332077    
    In response to raybucknell12

Starting off the New Year 0-1. At least we should have a chance at the bare minimum of splitting the Holy Cross series….On to the next!

New Years resolution for 2022. ND leaves and the staff joins.

 
The Psycho of Sojka 
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01-04-22 09:56 PM - Post#332325    
    In response to raybucknell12

I got to watch the last few minutes of the game and I am seeing the same thing over and over again. Even outside of my prime I think I could drop 20 points on Bucknell’s layup defense.

When Army started jacking up 3’s in the last few minutes the score got close. Once they called the time out after that little run Bucknell went on they went back to driving and it was the layup show.

I think ND has 3 options:
-1 play 2/3 as I’ve said a lot over the years on this forum.
-2 watch some film on how to defend layups.
-3 LEAVE!!



 
The Psycho of Sojka 
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01-04-22 10:03 PM - Post#332327    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

Side Note: January 13th vs Lehigh.

I’d donate 300 brown paper bag masks to the college for the first 300 in attendance to wear as a giveaway that says #FireND on them since it’s a rivalry game.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-04-22 10:25 PM - Post#332330    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

Many people will no longer post because of your negativity. Not the losing, YOUR negativity.



 
The Psycho of Sojka 
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01-04-22 10:32 PM - Post#332335    
    In response to HuskyColonial

That’s fine. I post what I see and what I think. I dont lose sleep at night either way. The coaching staff should be the only ones losing sleep and maybe should be figuring out what they need to do because of many red flags.

 
HuskyColonial 
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01-04-22 11:09 PM - Post#332338    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

I’m being sarcastic Psycho. This board is mostly an alumni board and I’m in the minority as a fan who grew up in Milton. But the reality is alumni have the influence and they have to pressure the administration to fire Davis and invest in men’s and women’s basketball.

I have a great infinity for football and wrestling at Bucknell. But Bucknell had a chance to be a perennial mid-major with men’s hoops and it’s gone. Gone. It’s over. It’s a terrible men’s program with an awesome facility.

Maybe the future of Bucknell basketball is on the women’s side. In some ways that makes more sense given the portal and the lack of 5th year eligibility. And I’m down with that.



 
Scotty-14 
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01-04-22 11:45 PM - Post#332345    
    In response to HuskyColonial

A John Griffin led team would not give up 90 Points to Army

 
Bison137 
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01-04-22 11:55 PM - Post#332346    
    In response to Scotty-14

  • Scotty-14 Said:
A John Griffin led team would not give up 90 Points to Army



That’s for sure. In fact, in the scholarship era, no Pat Flannery team gave up that many points in a game. And only once did a Dave Paulson team give up that many points in regulation - and that was at Notre Dame.

It’s true that the Flannery and Paulson teams played at a somewhat slower pace, but tonight’s game was not played at a super fast pace. The score was high mostly because no defense was being played.

One interesting item, BTW, is that in the first half Army scored 50 points despite not getting even one free-throw attempt.




 
Paulie777 
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Fire ND!
01-05-22 02:54 PM - Post#332357    
    In response to Bison137

What is concerning is the frequent use of comparative superlatives and irregular adjectives in many recent topics and posts, all of a negative quality of Bucknell basketball performance. Worst defense, lowest crowd, worst play, weakest, etc. This linguistic use from long time credible observers gives clues and signals a future which is encoded and now out of the control of physical actions. While the head coach may be with Bucknell for some time now, the inevitable has now been locked in linguistically. While I would not go off packing, it would probably be a good idea to dust off the bags.

Edited by Paulie777 on 01-05-22 02:57 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
bisonmania 
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01-07-22 11:55 AM - Post#332481    
    In response to Paulie777

This is interesting. Dave Paulsen is now a college basketball analyst for USA network. He makes his debut tomorrow.

 
The Psycho of Sojka 
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01-07-22 10:01 PM - Post#332623    
    In response to bisonmania

Holy Cross just passed us to put us in last place. It was HC’s first D1 win too. Congrats HC you deserve 9th place because at least you played both sides of the floor.

 
Bison137 
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01-07-22 10:07 PM - Post#332627    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

  • The Psycho of Sojka Said:
Holy Cross just passed us to put us in last place. It was HC’s first D1 win too. Congrats HC you deserve 9th place because at least you played both sides of the floor.




A bit of trivia: This is only the second time in 30 regular seasons that the Bison have started league play 0-3. And the first time in those 30 years that they have been in last place all by themselves after three games.




 
bisonmania 
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01-07-22 10:10 PM - Post#332631    
    In response to Bison137

That is really sad 137…

 
Bison54 
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01-07-22 10:20 PM - Post#332638    
    In response to bisonmania

Holy Cross has just barred all fans from games. ND has also done that. 0-19 in league games is a possibility, hope for COVID cancellations


 
The Psycho of Sojka 
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01-07-22 10:31 PM - Post#332646    
    In response to Bison137

That is really sad and more records will be breaking I’m sure in the near future.

 
Bison54 
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01-07-22 10:32 PM - Post#332648    
    In response to The Psycho of Sojka

Remember the Turtle!


 
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