Eric Von Zipper
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02-06-20 04:37 PM - Post#298738
Opens Princeton -3 1/2
The "Big Red Team" has a home Ivy League victory vs Columbia. Otherwise, they've won only 1 other D1 game this season.
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welcometothejungle
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Cornell
02-06-20 10:54 PM - Post#298757
In response to Eric Von Zipper
In the two contests last season against Cornell, Schwieger and Aririguzoh each led the way, with Schwieger going for 23 at home and Aririguzoh going for 20 in Ithaca. I'd expect the Tigers game plan to be to get those 2 involved early and often tomorrow night on the offensive end. Llewellyn also should have an athletic advantage over all of their guards besides McBride, so he should have opportunities to get to the rim. I think matchup wise this should look similar to Penn in trying to find those 1 on 1 matchups and exploiting them. I'd expect Earl to throw a lot of different looks defensively, including double teaming the post and some zones. Cornell's defense has been poor this season, so hopefully this is a game where open shots should come.
On the defensive end, similar to the Dartmouth game this one will all be about paying attention to the details of the scouting report. At 6-8 Boeheim is their primary offensive option. I'm interested to see who starts on Boeheim, I actually think it might be Evbuomwan. McBride is a quick, good passing guard who can hit the mid range pull up. Based on what's been said from the coaching staff about their confidence in Wright's defense lately, I think he might start on McBride while Llewellyn starts on the 6-1 Knapp who is primarily a shooter. That leaves Schwieger on Voss (who barely plays really) and RA on Warren.
Talent-wise, the Tigers should be in a good spot here, but wins on the road are tough, and Earl usually coaches a good game against the Tigers. But without Matt Morgan, this is his least talented team at Cornell, and looking at their box scores it seems like he's been searching for anyone on the roster to produce, and not finding much luck yet.
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Eric Von Zipper
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Re: Cornell
02-07-20 12:55 PM - Post#298798
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Opens Princeton -3 1/2
The "Big Red Team" has a home Ivy League victory vs Columbia. Otherwise, they've won only 1 other D1 game this season.
The O/U is 134 1/2 in snowy Ithaca.
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welcometothejungle
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02-07-20 01:25 PM - Post#298800
In response to Eric Von Zipper
https://twitter.com/cubigredhoops/status/ 122583136...
Per Cornell MBB’s twitter, game is postponed due to the weather conditions in Ithaca. They say more details to follow, gonna be a nightmare for the league to schedule as it looks like snow today and tomorrow
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-07-20 02:08 PM - Post#298804
In response to welcometothejungle
There goes my Friday night entertainment (sad, isn't it?).
Has the team already departed for Ithaca, or do they stay home and drive to NYC tomorrow?
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palestra38
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Cornell
02-07-20 02:09 PM - Post#298806
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
They still have to get to Ithaca---Princeton-Cornel l is Sat at 2. What's surprising is how infrequently this happens given that Cornell is in the snow belt.
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westphillywarrior
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02-07-20 02:12 PM - Post#298809
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Your team normally would have gone up to Ithaca last night.
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palestra38
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Cornell
02-07-20 02:19 PM - Post#298815
In response to westphillywarrior
If they are there, it's ridiculous not to play the games. Hell, we played the games at Yale and Brown (I called them on XPN) right after the Great Snowstorm of 1978. It has to be that the roads are unsafe (in '78, the team took Amtrak---can't do that in Ithaca)
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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02-07-20 02:25 PM - Post#298817
In response to palestra38
I see that Princeton vs Cornell is scheduled for 2pm. 14 inches of snow thru midnight in Ithaca today.
If Princeton isn't already on the way, how do you play at 2pm tomorrow?
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rbg
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02-07-20 02:26 PM - Post#298818
In response to palestra38
Earlier this morning, Cornell cancelled classes, but the university remained open.
Later, the school's Emergency Management group posted that the entire university would close at noon. The post mentioned that numerous roads are closed in the Ithaca area and Tompkins County. City bus (TCAT) service is suspended, as well.
Here's a weather alert from a few hours ago:
...WINTER STORM WARNING REMAINS IN EFFECT UNTIL MIDNIGHT EST
TONIGHT...
* WHAT...Heavy snow. Additional snow accumulations of 4 to 8
inches, resulting in storm total snowfall accumulations of 10 to
14 inches. Winds gusting as high as 35 mph.
* WHERE...Chenango, Northern Oneida, Cortland, Tompkins,
Onondaga, Madison, Southern Oneida, Seneca and Southern Cayuga
counties.
* WHEN...Heavy snow with snowfall rates of 2 to 3 inches per hour
will continue through early this afternoon. The snow will become
light by mid afternoon and continue through the evening.
* IMPACTS...Travel will be very difficult. Blowing snow will
significantly reduce visibility through evening. The combination
of winds, with weight of new snow and ice, will lead to
scattered power outages.
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welcometothejungle
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02-07-20 03:12 PM - Post#298834
In response to rbg
The team arrived in Ithaca last night
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Chip Bayers
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02-07-20 03:54 PM - Post#298843
In response to welcometothejungle
They cancelled all events when they closed campus. Imagine being the Michigan men’s tennis team which is there.
Men’s hockey vs. Colgate & women’s polo vs. Baltimore also postponed.
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bradley
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02-07-20 04:05 PM - Post#298846
In response to welcometothejungle
Mitch had mentioned on the radio show that they were going to Ithaca on Thursday.
Reunion weekend for the great 2009 Cornell team so Cornell should be psyched to play this weekend games.
It is understandable that Cornell has extra challenges when recruiting based on weather.
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Eric Von Zipper
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02-07-20 06:35 PM - Post#298873
In response to bradley
And as a courtesy, Pennsylvania vs Columbia in rainy NYC cancelled as well.
Snowflakes.
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umbrellaman
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02-07-20 06:52 PM - Post#298878
In response to Eric Von Zipper
We had planned part of my kids birthday for the Columbia-Princeton game Saturday night. We wound up switching to the Columbia Penn game at 2pm on Saturday, lucky for us, but yeah, I suppose Columbia and Penn could have played tonight and then went to Cornell on Sunday.
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Chip Bayers
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Cornell
02-07-20 07:15 PM - Post#298881
In response to Eric Von Zipper
And as a courtesy, Pennsylvania vs Columbia in rainy NYC cancelled as well.
Snowflakes.
Pretty sure the league arranged this, but I doubt Coach Henderson would have really wanted to play tomorrow afternoon, get on a bus for four hours to arrive in NYC around 9-10 PM, and then play another road game 16 hours later against a team sleeping in their own beds with an extra day of rest.
Edited by Chip Bayers on 02-07-20 07:27 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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SRP
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02-07-20 08:16 PM - Post#298902
In response to Chip Bayers
Snow in Ithaca? You'd kind of think there was no level of blizzard sufficient to shut them down. PU had already traveled there--why not just play it as scheduled today?
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PennFan10
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02-07-20 08:51 PM - Post#298911
In response to SRP
They had to switch both games to be fair to all teams. Every team has to do the Columbia/Cornell back to back. If they staggered this weekends games it wouldn't have been fair to the travel pairs nor the other teams who won't play these games with a day rest in middle.
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SRP
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02-07-20 09:41 PM - Post#298920
In response to PennFan10
That's nuts. Act of God and all that. Everybody knows your homework isn't due on a snow day. The small advantage of a one-day gap seems a lot less unreasonable than tossing the whole schedule into turmoil.
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westphillywarrior
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02-07-20 09:45 PM - Post#298922
In response to PennFan10
How can you even imagine that they care about "fair".
They play the most important games of the year on someone's home court.
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PennFan10
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02-08-20 01:08 AM - Post#298946
In response to westphillywarrior
Aaah but they are rotating home court around!
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-08-20 03:26 PM - Post#298989
In response to westphillywarrior
Very slow start. Lots of TO's.
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 03:26 PM - Post#298991
In response to PennFan10
Tigers laying an egg so far in ithaca. Down 13 with 7 to play in 1st half. 9 turnovers for the Tigers. Uggh!
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 03:34 PM - Post#298996
In response to TigerFan
Ugly play by the Tigers. They are bombing from outside and missing badly. They have to work for better shots.
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 03:36 PM - Post#298998
In response to TigerFan
How many layups is JL going to miss in his Princeton career. Good Lord.
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 03:39 PM - Post#298999
In response to TigerFan
And RA misses the front end of a 1-and-1. Great
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 03:39 PM - Post#299000
In response to TigerFan
Did our guys walk to Ithaca?
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 03:42 PM - Post#299002
In response to TigerFan
Tigers down 13 at the half. Looks like the early season team that couldn’t shoot, defend, or hold onto the ball. Uggh.
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 03:45 PM - Post#299005
In response to TigerFan
JL goes 1/7 and RA takes only one shot in the first half.
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 04:00 PM - Post#299016
In response to TigerFan
This is a horror show. Tigers can’t make a bucket from anywhere and Red can’t miss. Down 18 2 minutes into the 2nd stanza.
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TigerFan
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Cornell
02-08-20 04:01 PM - Post#299017
In response to TigerFan
Beautiful back door cut from JL, grabs the pass and bounces it off his knee out of bounds. Yikes!
Edited by TigerFan on 02-08-20 04:01 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Cornell
02-08-20 04:35 PM - Post#299036
In response to TigerFan
At the other end, Cornell scoring almost at will on post moves and midrange jumpers.
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TigerFan
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02-08-20 05:00 PM - Post#299053
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Out hustled. Out coached. Out played. Bad shooting. Bad rebounding. Bad passing. Bad defense. Have to shake this game off and get back to the play that was winning games.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Cornell
02-08-20 05:01 PM - Post#299054
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Cornell outplayed us at both ends. Hats off to Brian Earl.
We only came alive when JL attempted to take over the game.
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gokinsmen
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Cornell
02-08-20 06:02 PM - Post#299060
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
I was afraid this would happen. Brian just knows us/Mitch too well. No matter their record, Cornell always has a good chance against us.
From here on out, the goal is to avoid Yale in a first round Ivy Tourney game. We know we can beat Harvard and Penn, so just give Penn/Harvard a chance to beat Yale on Saturday and we'll take our chances on Sunday.
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welcometothejungle
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02-08-20 06:03 PM - Post#299062
In response to gokinsmen
Just a bad game all around. It happens, not much else to say. Good teams have fewer of them, or are able to overcome their bad games. Just have to rebound hard in NYC tomorrow afternoon
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internetter
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02-08-20 08:14 PM - Post#299091
In response to westphillywarrior
The Big Red won, something like 82-63
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Chip Bayers
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02-08-20 08:16 PM - Post#299093
In response to internetter
“Something like.â€
For those of you Princeton fans without an Internet connection.
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Tiger69
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02-08-20 09:22 PM - Post#299117
In response to Chip Bayers
I feel especially bad for RA who has developed from a project his freshman year to a strong all-purpose player who dominated two of the more publicized centers from harvard and Penn in the last two weeks. I wish that he could be around for another couple of years. His work and enthusiasm are good models for the younger players. Sorry for this,Bogey. We’ll always have Pennsylvania.
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1LotteryPick1969
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02-09-20 09:02 AM - Post#299164
In response to Tiger69
I'm surprised there is no analytic insight posted by those more attentive than I.
Clearly the defensive effort of Cornell was very high--look at our turnovers.
And ours was lacking, as is evidenced by the Cornell point total.
Several particulars stand out however.
How does Richmond have only one shot in the first half? At some point does Coach not make an adjustment?
Also, Cornell seemed to score at will in the paint. How about a match-up zone to keep Richmond deep in the paint.
Lastly, with the game slipping a way, Coach apparently told Jae-Llew to take over the game on offense, which he did. Once again it became apparent that he can get to the rim, but is not a good interior passer.
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bradley
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02-09-20 10:15 AM - Post#299165
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Good points regarding coaching strategy especially as to not using Richmond in the 1st half and focusing more on the inside/out game against a smaller team -- just do not understand. Not surprising that Cornell played an emotional game as suggested previously.
Simple reality is that there is no outstanding team in the IL this year for a variety of reasons. It could be a function of greater parity in the league or the league has taken a step back this year which I believe is more likely.
I remember the rational provided by some that the IL was going to become a two bid league, especially with the introduction of IvyMadeness. Time will tell as to how accurate those projections will turn out.
It is a good competitive league but nothing much more than that, especially this year which gives the Tigers some hope but looking at yesterday's performance --- it is what it is.
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