UPIA1968
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-20-06
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02-09-20 08:10 PM - Post#299341
Of the five contenders, Harvard has the easiest schedule with six home games and four games against the C's. Pomeroy has them going 6-2.
Penn and Princeton have four home and four away. Pomeroy has them both going 4-4.
Brown and Yale have 6 road games against 2 home games. Pomeroy has Yale going 6-2 and Brown going 3-5.
That leaves have Penn playing Yale and Princeton playing Harvard in the tournament.
Of course, if Penn wins out they are national champions. If the Flyers, Eagles, Sixers and Phillies win out they are world champions.
It's a shame about Ryan B's injuries the last two years. Both have hurt this year's chances, although now Steve will have to give the frosh more time. It sure worked today.
I always thought that Devon would surprise as soon as I saw his quickness. He is not the classic point guard, but no Penn player has ever run the open court better than he. A good Philly guard! He seems to be amping it up as his career winds down. Good for him - and for us!
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Okoro Dude
Senior
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Loc: Glen Mills, PA
Reg: 11-24-04
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Re: Eight Games to Go.
02-10-20 11:48 AM - Post#299375
In response to UPIA1968
I like Dev a lot, but I'll take Ibby in the open court
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palestra38
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
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Re: Eight Games to Go.
02-10-20 11:59 AM - Post#299376
In response to Okoro Dude
Goodman is much better than Ibby in breaking down opponents one on one and slicing to the basket. Ibby was the best ever on Penn (2nd to Ira Bowman) at stripping his man and going the length of the court for an uncontested layup.
The only one I have seen as good as Goodman in getting to the basket is Bobby Willis.
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10Q
Professor
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Loc: Suburban Philly
Reg: 11-21-04
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02-10-20 12:05 PM - Post#299377
In response to palestra38
If you could start your team with just one of them, which would you pick? I never saw Willis play.
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QHoops
Senior
Posts: 368
Reg: 12-16-04
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02-10-20 12:17 PM - Post#299379
In response to 10Q
A month ago, I would have said the Goodman is a hair quicker, but Willis was the significantly better player.
But as we have seen recently, Dev at his best is pretty darn good.
It's hard to compare since Willis performed on a much bigger stage, and was really good against national level competition.
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10Q
Professor
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02-10-20 12:20 PM - Post#299380
In response to QHoops
I'd take Ibby over Dev against national level competition.
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Quaker75
Freshman
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Age: 59
Reg: 12-29-13
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02-10-20 12:25 PM - Post#299382
In response to 10Q
Beat Brown, Go Quakers.
And I saw Ibby play at Princeton. Perfect night to see, an ice storm struck so few came. Took my son and we sat on the floor- got to give high fives to both team's players before and at half-so fun. Both are fun players to watch- Ibby played in Europe-very quick.
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palestra38
Professor
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02-10-20 12:29 PM - Post#299383
In response to Quaker75
Quickness yes, speed no. Goodman is probably the fastest player in the League and is faster than was Ibby. Not knocking Ibby--he was a better all around player.
But yes, Bobby willis was better still. And Jerome was the best guard we ever had (worst coach, but that's a different category).
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LyleGold
PhD Student
Posts: 1712
Reg: 11-22-04
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Re: Eight Games to Go.
02-10-20 12:31 PM - Post#299384
In response to palestra38
The only one I have seen as good as Goodman in getting to the basket is Bobby Willis.
It's easy to get nostalgic about your (our) own era, but Willis was not as fast as Dev. And he didn't do such a great job getting to the basket against Gminski.
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penn nation
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Reg: 12-02-04
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02-10-20 12:35 PM - Post#299385
In response to palestra38
33:35 mark. Watch the move Jerome puts on future NBA guard Erick Strickland.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LdR6tqx4bI
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10Q
Professor
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Loc: Suburban Philly
Reg: 11-21-04
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02-10-20 12:37 PM - Post#299387
In response to penn nation
I was wondering when someone would talk about Jerome. Let's not forget Maloney and Rosen. They are also in the Pantheon.
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palestra38
Professor
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Re: Eight Games to Go.
02-10-20 12:37 PM - Post#299388
In response to LyleGold
Your memory is failing---2 of those 3 rejections were Crowley...1 was Willis.
It's a bit hard to compare because everyone on that team from 77- 79 ran the court and there were so many guards (Greene, Willis, Crowley, Salters, in 77, Lonetto and in 79, Hall and Reynolds) that no one got more than 20-25 minutes playing time.
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palestra38
Professor
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02-10-20 12:37 PM - Post#299389
In response to 10Q
We're talking speed
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10Q
Professor
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02-10-20 12:46 PM - Post#299394
In response to palestra38
I've never seen a speedier Quaker than Dev. He's our version of Alan Iverson.
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LyleGold
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-22-04
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Re: Eight Games to Go.
02-10-20 12:50 PM - Post#299395
In response to palestra38
My memory is fine. I know it was Crowley twice and Willis once, but he was not as fast as Dev. Ibby may have been, but I can't think of anyone else including Bowman.
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palestra38
Professor
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Re: Eight Games to Go.
02-10-20 12:50 PM - Post#299396
In response to LyleGold
OK, matter of opinion.
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LyleGold
PhD Student
Posts: 1712
Reg: 11-22-04
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02-10-20 12:51 PM - Post#299397
In response to 10Q
I've never seen a speedier Quaker than Dev. He's our version of Alan Iverson.
Agreed, but without the tattoos.
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weinhauers_ghost
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Loc: New York City
Reg: 12-14-09
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Eight Games to Go.
02-10-20 01:07 PM - Post#299400
In response to palestra38
Quickness yes, speed no. Goodman is probably the fastest player in the League and is faster than was Ibby. Not knocking Ibby--he was a better all around player.
But yes, Bobby willis was better still. And Jerome was the best guard we ever had (worst coach, but that's a different category).
That brings up a memory from '79. I saw Bobby put an open court move on Temple's Walt Montford that left Montford trying to figure out where his uniform had disappeared to.
Baseline to baseline, Goodman is the quickest.
Edited by weinhauers_ghost on 02-10-20 01:08 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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LyleGold
PhD Student
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02-10-20 01:10 PM - Post#299401
In response to weinhauers_ghost
Well, Walt Montford had the quickness and agility of a mountain. He wasn't called the Mountain Man for nuthin'.
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weinhauers_ghost
Postdoc
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Age: 64
Loc: New York City
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02-10-20 03:21 PM - Post#299430
In response to LyleGold
Well, Walt Montford had the quickness and agility of a mountain. He wasn't called the Mountain Man for nuthin'.
Very true. Still, it was astounding to watch him attempt to react to Willis' move.
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