Bison137
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02-17-20 02:07 PM - Post#300445
Bison Game Article: https://bucknellbison.com/news/2020/2/16/mens-b ask...
Bison desperately need a win to have a chance for the 7 seed - which carries more favorable match-ups. A loss would likely guarantee a first round game in the PLT with Lehigh, who now has a healthy James Karnik. And if the Bison were to win that game, Colgate would be waiting two days later.
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Bison89
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02-17-20 08:38 PM - Post#300471
In response to Bison137
It's nice to hear a loud game. The HC Football Team is making this fun. Why can't Bucknell's various teams show up to hoops games?
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MrPhillie
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02-17-20 09:20 PM - Post#300474
In response to Bison89
I’ve given up on Bucknell students years ago.
The announcer just described Meeks as “long and lanky.â€
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Bison89
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02-17-20 09:32 PM - Post#300477
In response to MrPhillie
Maybe he has long and lanky fingers but nothing else.
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MrPhillie
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02-17-20 09:36 PM - Post#300480
In response to Bison89
Would be nice to see Davis take his starters out and allow younger guys to get 3-4 minutes.
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Bison54
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02-17-20 09:57 PM - Post#300481
In response to MrPhillie
Standing next to Timmerman
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nh2032
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02-17-20 10:56 PM - Post#300485
In response to Bison54
Good win. If "trap games" exist for 7th place teams this had the makings of one. Now to repeat that again on Sunday against another down on their luck rival.
Disagree with the bench comment. We just lost Bruce for the year and have players adjusting to different rotations and roles. The extra few minutes of game time getting the group to gel are worth more than playing time for Timmerman and Rhodes at this point.
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MrPhillie
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02-17-20 11:07 PM - Post#300486
In response to nh2032
Disagree regarding bench. Main change with Bruce out is more PT for Spear and Meeks. There will be slightly different combinations but nothing they haven’t done whenever Bruce got in foul trouble. Also, playing an extra two minutes in a blowout win in the 28th game of the season is not miraculously gonna make your team gel.
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nh2032
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02-17-20 11:26 PM - Post#300489
In response to MrPhillie
But it is going to be the key to developing your 10th-12th deep bench players one of whom is a senior? Got it.
Yes it is a lot about Spear who had not been getting significant minutes at the 5 until recently and had been typically been playing with with Bruce or Paul as part of the 2nd unit.
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Doktore K
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02-17-20 11:45 PM - Post#300490
In response to nh2032
Agree with NH on this one. Developing Spear and Ellis more important than the end of your bench. Not a big deal either way. Spear has potential and high ceiling as they say.
Surprising that no one has pointed this out: we tied an all time basketball record (any level) by making zero foul shots in this game. Incredible! Newman missed all 4 of our tries. No one else even got to the line.
Somewhere Zack Thomas is doing an LOL tonight. Zack averaged about 8 of 9 FTs his senior year. Not a good stat. Lack of slashing and finishing at the hoop.
On a positive note, Sotos seemed to focus on handling the ball and passing. Did not force things. Looked good acting as the PG in control tonight.
Also put it in perspective— Meeks is leaner and lankier than last year. Not a trim fit but give him credit. Has a lot of moves and is crafty. Should get to the FT line more often.
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MrPhillie
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02-18-20 12:11 AM - Post#300492
In response to nh2032
But it is going to be the key to developing your 10th-12th deep bench players one of whom is a senior? Got it.
Yes it is a lot about Spear who had not been getting significant minutes at the 5 until recently and had been typically been playing with with Bruce or Paul as part of the 2nd unit.
Developing 10th-12th players? Yeah, exactly what I said. I think most would understand it’s simply about getting some guys on the court a few minutes, letting them enjoy playing after working just as hard as other players. This team has had few stress-free wins so it seemed like an easy thing to let the entire team take part and enjoy a big win. And you will never convince me that an extra two minutes in a blowout win against reserves in the 28th game is a difference-maker in the development of guys who have played most of the year. Agree to disagree.
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Bison137
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02-18-20 03:25 AM - Post#300493
In response to Doktore K
Surprising that no one has pointed this out: we tied an all time basketball record (any level) by making zero foul shots in this game. Incredible! Newman missed all 4 of our tries. No one else even got to the line.
And the two teams came close to a really amazing record. With 4:50 left in the game, neither team had made a FT before HC made four late ones. I wonder how many games end up with zero made FT's for either team.
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nitlion
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02-18-20 05:07 AM - Post#300495
In response to Bison137
bucknell 0-4, ,Newman, got to the foul line 4 times 0-4..Holy Cross 4-7, only 21 fouls called, 11 foul shots attempted, this is not a complaint, but rarely in Patriot League games do I see this few of fouls called. I wish every games was officiated like this, 3 officials left the teams play, and decided not to make the game about themselves.
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candyfan
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02-18-20 06:24 AM - Post#300497
In response to nitlion
May we look back at some point in 2020 and say that Bruce Moore taking himself out of the lineup was THE reason (or one of the main reasons) why Bucknell finished strongly in season 2019-20?
Moore forced development of J.Spear and others that would have been delayed until season 2020-21?
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Bison89
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02-18-20 10:03 AM - Post#300506
In response to candyfan
May we look back at some point in 2020 and say that Bruce Moore taking himself out of the lineup was THE reason (or one of the main reasons) why Bucknell finished strongly in season 2019-20?
Moore forced development of J.Spear and others that would have been delayed until season 2020-21?
Canydfan, your comment is very interesting. I had never thought of this. Hmmmm, I wonder . . .
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Bison54
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02-18-20 04:08 PM - Post#300566
In response to Bison89
So what is the real reason Bruce is out of the lineup? Broken hand/wrist? When did it happen? In game, in practice, or something else?
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bisonmania
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02-18-20 09:10 PM - Post#300601
In response to Bison54
I will say this. The injury did not occur during the game.
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Old Bison
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02-19-20 02:18 PM - Post#300698
In response to bisonmania
I think any further discussion is counterproductive. Let’s take care of our own
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MrPhillie
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02-19-20 07:56 PM - Post#300762
In response to Old Bison
Nothing wrong with the truth. Some on this board are fine to talk about other PL programs and/or make light of them, but for some reason that cannot be true regarding Bucknell. Nobody is perfect and no program does everything the best way all the time. Nobody is above reproach. We don’t have to get ugly but not sure why some things cannot be discussed. Just my observation.
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Old Bison
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02-19-20 09:35 PM - Post#300769
In response to MrPhillie
Because it’s not about the program, it’s about the kid. Did you ever make a mistake in your life? I’m not going to comment on this issue any further. You either have some discretion or you don’t. I know I wouldn’t want every mistake I made in my life a topic for discussion amongst strangers. Some matters are public and some matters are private and in this instance I think this falls under the umbrella of the latter. Thank you
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