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james 
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04-19-20 10:40 AM - Post#306372    

jack molloy to yale. offers from penn state and bc and most of the ivies.

clear penn wanted him as they offer the kid from ehs in alexandria on the back of molloy picking yale.

molloy is ranked 13th in new england by the prep report. never seen him live but he's a bully on video.



 
Mike Porter 
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04-19-20 04:01 PM - Post#306381    
    In response to james

Do you have some insight into why it’s “clear Penn wanted him “? Or is that speculation based on the separate offer to Garrett Johnson? Because we also offered another 2021 SF Andy Barna a few weeks ago, so not sure it’s a direct correlation.

I see on Twitter Jack Molloy had an unofficial visit to Penn, but I see no offers via Twitter or on VC. He looks like a very good player so it’s not that we wouldn’t want him, but I just don’t see an internet trail of any actual offer.





 
mobrien 
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04-19-20 04:32 PM - Post#306382    
    In response to Mike Porter

247 Sports says Penn offered him.

https://247sports.com/Recruitment/Jack-Moll oy-1356...

 
Mike Porter 
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04-19-20 04:55 PM - Post#306383    
    In response to mobrien

Good spot - thanks I didn’t see that one. Definitely some level of Penn interest for sure, which makes sense. Still curious if James has some inside baseball knowledge of Penn really going after him or if more speculative.

 
mrjames 
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04-19-20 06:06 PM - Post#306384    
    In response to Mike Porter

We’ll see what happens with him. Not a good year at NMH, so his stock is down a bit. Will get another year to prove it in the prep ranks, though, and could always earn it back with more time on the court. According to one tweet I read he had a “1500+” on the SAT, which at that point makes him a near AI booster, so seems like a no brainer to take a shot and see if he becomes the player the ratings had him projected to be...

 
james 
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04-21-20 07:02 PM - Post#306429    
    In response to mrjames

Yes I do. Molloy is a big score according to the coaches. Center piece of the class

and they are after Garrett now. Not coincidentally offered him on the minute molloy committed

My insights originate in n va and new haven and atl where I live. Not in philly

But deduction gets you this. Huge get for yale

I am hearing the exact opposite of mike James from my coaching friends. The exact opposite

But as u know I only give views when I see live

I have seen the kid from Ehs in Alexandria that penn offered.
I was on Yale to recruit him. Ehs has 5 d 1 guys this year at least



 
james 
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04-21-20 07:04 PM - Post#306430    
    In response to james

Garrett Johnson episcopal high school Alexandria va

Mid major offers piling up.

He can play. Yale has seen him. They like molloy

 
james 
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04-21-20 07:05 PM - Post#306431    
    In response to james

To be clear penn offered Garrett Johnson. Yale has not

 
SomeGuy 
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04-21-20 11:47 PM - Post#306434    
    In response to james

He wasn’t anything close to the centerpiece on his high school team last year. He averaged under 7 ppg. He was the sixth leading scorer on a team of Ivy recruits (and not particularly heavily recruited Ivy recruits).

Maybe he’ll bust out this year, but given his low high school output, I doubt he is going to have an immediate impact at Yale.

 
mrjames 
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04-22-20 09:40 AM - Post#306440    
    In response to SomeGuy

It could have easily been a bad fit for Molloy. He certainly did a lot over the previous summer to merit the rankings he received. I'm not betting against a resurgence at Hotchkiss. Just saying that, at present, he isn't as highly regarded as he was at his peak.

Also important to note... 2021 is going to be a WEIRD year for recruiting. Potentially no AAU to evaluate, potentially limited testing, potentially less ability to recruit the entire nation, potentially no visits (at least in the fall). With all of that context, it's a good, no downside, pickup that could have big upside. But the notion that he's the immediate centerpiece of the class, as you mentioned, doesn't mesh with what I've heard.

 
SomeGuy 
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04-22-20 09:52 AM - Post#306441    
    In response to mrjames

How would less testing potentially impact the AI? Could this be a year where it is a little easier for Ivies to recruit in an AI sense (recognizing that it may be harder to tell who can play basketball — maybe everyone will just recruit based on those highlight videos)?

 
mrjames 
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04-22-20 10:14 AM - Post#306443    
    In response to SomeGuy

For the borderline cases, testing multiple times can help push a recruit over the line, so we may lose out on some prospects near the floor if they can't take the test multiple times.

 
james 
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04-22-20 06:15 PM - Post#306508    
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I just tell you what I hear not what I see bc I haven’t seen the kid live but you are free to assess as you see fit and perhaps your analysis is superior to the Yale staff

II will pass it along that molloy isn’t the centerpiece to the guys that recruited him

I have seen Garrett practice and play. Good luck w him. He’s a nice player and a great kid (according to his coach)

Apparently Yale disagreed w me as they haven’t offered Garrett but have seen him. Maybe they can’t get him in but think he is better than molloy. Perhaps they think they play different positions of need. No color there bc I have received none

Upon further reflection maybe both some guy and me are correct

We’ll see. But Garrett got an offer from penn about ~10 mins after molloy picked Yale. I do know that



 
SomeGuy 
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04-22-20 06:48 PM - Post#306511    
    In response to james

I think there is a logical way to thread the needle so that everyone is more or less right. Molloy may be the AI centerpiece of next year’s class, and that may be every bit as important as his basketball upside. My point is just that he’s not likely to come in and start right away at Yale when he wasn’t one of the top 5 guys on his high school team. That doesn’t mean he won’t be strong player down the line, and it doesn’t mean that the Yale staff is wrong in their analysis. I imagine they know exactly what they are getting.

 
james 
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05-24-20 02:00 PM - Post#307878    
    In response to SomeGuy

We offer Garrett Johnson

I should be a talent scout full time

He has picked up 25 offers in the interim.

 
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