Chet Forte
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05-21-20 07:17 PM - Post#307725
So our feckless president slammed alma mater today for releasing a study which showed that more lives would have been saved if the country had been shut down two weeks earlier. Called us out for a “liberal hit jobâ€. As if we didn’t have enough problems; with Trump going after us this will be a fatal blow to MBB recruiting.
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Bruno
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Loc: Brooklyn, NY
Reg: 11-21-04
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Re: Trump slams Columbia 05-21-20 08:32 PM - Post#307729
In response to Chet Forte
I can't tell if the comment on recruiting is tongue in cheek, but I'll go with yes.
As our President knows all too well - any publicity is good publicity. Brown could only pray for such exposure.
LET'S go BRU-no (duh. nuh. nuh-nuh-nuh) |
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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05-21-20 09:47 PM - Post#307735
In response to Bruno
How many octagenarian farmers did you expect to recruit?
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Sagatius
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Age: 76
Reg: 11-17-15
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05-22-20 01:14 PM - Post#307746
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
I think the Attorney General may be in trouble, since he also went to Columbia.
I think Trump may have forfeited the octogenarian vote by deciding that they were expendable.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
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05-22-20 02:35 PM - Post#307776
In response to Sagatius
Sadly, if Trump is successful they won't be able to vote against him as it's unlikely they'll want to visit the polls in person.
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penn nation
Professor
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Reg: 12-02-04
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05-22-20 07:41 PM - Post#307815
In response to Sagatius
I think the Attorney General may be in trouble, since he also went to Columbia.
I think Trump may have forfeited the octogenarian vote by deciding that they were expendable.
Maybe he'll use some of the Wall money to perhaps rename and refigure the Pentagon?
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Loc: New Jersey
Reg: 01-21-14
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05-23-20 12:22 PM - Post#307830
In response to penn nation
Maybe the study could be peer reviewed by Penn? See whether Trump maligns his Alma mater?
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Columbia 37P6
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Reg: 02-14-06
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05-23-20 06:15 PM - Post#307847
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Data driven mathematical forecasts of the type used by the "Columbia Researchers" can be easily used to second guess the timing of any important historical event whether the example is Trump's response to the current pandemic or Roosevelt's decision not to assist militarily in the defense of millions in Europe and Asia for several years until the United States was finally attacked by the Japanese at Pearl Harbor. Surely, that was an error as was Lincoln's fateful decision to go to the Ford Theatre. Incidentally, I am not evaluating whether the findings of the "Columbia Researchers" were right or wrong, I'm just pointing out that historians have never taken mathematical driven analyses seriously.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Trump slams Columbia 05-23-20 08:14 PM - Post#307848
In response to Columbia 37P6
Just as it’s clear that President Lincoln would have lived longer had he skipped the show that fateful evening, I feel very comfortable in knowing that fewer would have died had Trump not tried to downplay the virus for the entire month of February.
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 05-23-20 08:34 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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palestra38
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Re: Trump slams Columbia 05-23-20 08:54 PM - Post#307850
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
January. https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-peter-navarr...
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Columbia 37P6
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05-23-20 09:33 PM - Post#307851
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
I do agree with you that Trump made a tragic mistake in downplaying the virus in February that contributed to the higher number of deaths resulting from the virus. However, my point was that historians have never taken seriously data driven mathematical data of the type performed by the "Columbia researchers" because such data is by nature prejudicial to the event whether it was Lincoln's obvious mistake in going to the Ford Theatre, or Roosevelt's mistake in allowing the Fascists to overrun Europe and almost conquer England.
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palestra38
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05-23-20 09:36 PM - Post#307852
In response to Columbia 37P6
There is a difference between Trump's decisions with respect to a virus and Lincoln's and Roosevelt's decisions, which involved criminal/war decisions of other people. It's not a valid comparison. Mathematical data do tell you how to react to a virus.
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Columbia 37P6
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05-23-20 09:51 PM - Post#307853
In response to palestra38
With all due respect, science and humanity tell you how to react to a virus, not mathematical data.
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palestra38
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Reg: 11-21-04
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05-23-20 10:02 PM - Post#307854
In response to Columbia 37P6
We all know what "with all due respect means" but mathematics = science. The probability of pandemic after we knew that this was an incurable disease out of control in China is mathematically capable of prediction. There was no way of predicting what Hitler or John Wilkes Booth would do. It's a false comparison.
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penn nation
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Trump slams Columbia 05-23-20 10:13 PM - Post#307855
In response to palestra38
I think what C37P6 means by values has merit as well. The data about the spread of the virus and estimated fatalities only drive policy if you value human life as a top priority. Clearly, there were and are other priorities for this President that he values at a higher level.
Edited by penn nation on 05-23-20 10:13 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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