91Quake
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06-06-20 12:18 PM - Post#308602
https://medium.com/@ngraham_28358/its-ti me-for-whi...
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Buckeye Quake
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06-06-20 01:42 PM - Post#308604
In response to 91Quake
In a New Yorker piece from 1962 titled "Letter from a Region in My Mind" Baldwin stated "It demands great spiritual resilience not to hate the hater whose foot is on your neck, and an even greater miracle of perception and charity not teach your children to hate. 58n years later as Alphonse Karr once opined, "The more things change the more they stay the same".
Thank you Nat for such a powerful statement.
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SteveChop
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06-06-20 03:12 PM - Post#308607
In response to Buckeye Quake
Thanks Nat for a well-written and appropriately provocative article.
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Mike Porter
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06-06-20 09:24 PM - Post#308613
In response to SteveChop
Wonderfully written and very thoughtful piece from Nat. Very well said and I hope we can all help drive the change that this country desperately needs.
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Buckeye Quake
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06-07-20 11:46 AM - Post#308615
In response to Mike Porter
AMEN!
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sparman
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06-07-20 05:12 PM - Post#308618
In response to Buckeye Quake
Thoughtful and compelling, but unfortunately many of the people who need to read it either will not, or will not give it any thought.
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Buckeye Quake
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06-07-20 06:33 PM - Post#308619
In response to sparman
Trust me considering some of the comments I've overheard in the Palestra as well as some I've read on this forum, I couldn't agree more.
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penn nation
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06-07-20 08:15 PM - Post#308622
In response to Buckeye Quake
Nice that he mentions both Baldwin and Coates as starting points.
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OldBig5
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06-08-20 08:58 PM - Post#308711
In response to penn nation
Well written and thought provoking piece.
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Quakers03
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Nat Graham with a thoughtful piece...
06-09-20 04:34 PM - Post#308831
In response to sparman
Thoughtful and compelling, but unfortunately many of the people who need to read it either will not, or will not give it any thought.
I really wonder what they were thinking as they read this. Do you think they got through a few paragraphs and just quit? Made it all the way through and just wrote it off? I'm not sure how many more stories people need to hear to be able to put themselves in someone else's shoes, but something seems different this time and the sports figures speaking even louder have a lot to do with it.
The line that I keep going back to and the theme that really sticks out to me throughout this whole thing is the social contract idea. Having a better understanding of why people might loot has been eye-opening.
He said it felt more as if these kids knew that the social contract was never meant to include them
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penn nation
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Re: Nat Graham with a thoughtful piece...
06-09-20 04:45 PM - Post#308834
In response to Quakers03
The line that I keep going back to and the theme that really sticks out to me throughout this whole thing is the social contract idea. Having a better understanding of why people might loot has been eye-opening.
Watch John Oliver all the way through the very end.
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Quakers03
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06-10-20 08:54 AM - Post#308855
In response to penn nation
Yeah. What she said.
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Buckeye Quake
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06-10-20 10:33 AM - Post#308858
In response to penn nation
Drawing upon brilliant minds past and present.
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TheLine
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06-10-20 02:30 PM - Post#308883
In response to Buckeye Quake
I haven't been paying attention to this site, only checked in a week or so back re: Seth Towns. Missed this thread entirely.
Graham his it on the head in his framing of this being an order vs. justice dichotomy. Though he hinted at but didn't explicitly get to the point of the banality of most institutional racism framed as 'order'.
And no, the people who need to read Graham's piece won't. Or will and won't understand anyway.
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weinhauers_ghost
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06-10-20 02:57 PM - Post#308885
In response to TheLine
I haven't been paying attention to this site, only checked in a week or so back re: Seth Towns. Missed this thread entirely.
Graham his it on the head in his framing of this being an order vs. justice dichotomy. Though he hinted at but didn't explicitly get to the point of the banality of most institutional racism framed as 'order'.
And no, the people who need to read Graham's piece won't. Or will and won't understand anyway.
One thing I took away from Graham's piece is that if he makes his point this clearly in an essay, we shouldn't worry about him connecting with recruits who have the academic credentials to succeed at Penn. Plus, he has additional credibility as an alumnus.
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