SomeGuy
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02-17-06 03:20 PM - Post#15734
Does the NIT's announcement that it will include all regular season conference champions alter opinions on the league tournament issue in any way? Interestingly, the announcement probably decreases the chances of future NIT invites for Ivy teams by quite a bit.
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SFlaQuaker
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Re: New NIT selection criteria
02-17-06 03:38 PM - Post#15735
In response to SomeGuy
Not at all. Even in the past, before the official policy, the Ivy champion had a strong enough profile that it would probably make the NIT even if it lost in the conference tourney. The NIT is fine to go to when you finish second at 10-2 or 9-3. It's little consolation when you go 13-1 or 14-0.
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jackstraw
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Re: New NIT selection criteria
02-17-06 07:38 PM - Post#15736
In response to SFlaQuaker
When is the last time penn even got an invite to the nit. Never understood why we always seemed to get snubbed.
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SomeGuy
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Re: New NIT selection criteria
02-17-06 07:53 PM - Post#15737
In response to jackstraw
The answer is never. Over the Dunphy era, we've had a top 100 team when we've won the league, but we haven't been top 100 in any year when we haven't. I believe Princeton and Yale were both around the 100 level when they got to the NIT. So I'm not sure we've really been snubbed there (though Brown got in in '03 with a weak RPI).
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Big R&B Truth
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Re: New NIT selection criteria
02-18-06 02:42 AM - Post#15738
In response to SomeGuy
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The answer is never.
Penn was invited to the NITs in 1981 after losing to Princeton in a playoff. They lost to West Virgina in the first round.
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JDP
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Re: New NIT selection criteria
02-21-06 11:59 PM - Post#15739
In response to Big R&B Truth
I think the closest Penn came in the Dunphy era may have been either the 1991-92 16-10 team (Jerome’s first year). But a late season loss at Columbia did not help. And I recall some talk that Villanova, who we did not play that season due to their Big 5 demands, and Roland V. Massimino, who was in his last season as coach, did not want to play Penn in the NIT. Nova lost the opening round game to Virginia.
Given Brown’s entry into the NIT, I think the 1996-96 team that started the seasons 1-6 and ended 16-4 but lost two Ivy games by two points and the OT playoff game would have gotten in the NIT in the recent era.
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