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james 
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11-14-20 03:26 PM - Post#316724    
    In response to james

The frustration is for kids like Wyatt yess and jake lanford and eze dike etc to a lesser extent.

not sure what Wyatt does. Probably too late to pull out of the semester.

For lanford , feinberg et all they will go into senior year with little playing experience and be expected to heavily contribute.
Alausa and gabbidon likely keep doing their thing away from Yale and come back next year.

For the 3 freshman enrolled and the sophomores it’s just power 5 5th year optionality

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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11-14-20 08:39 PM - Post#316733    
    In response to james

With 20 Div. I programs currently shut down due to COVID, Iona Coach Rick Pitino tweeted:

"Save the Season. Move the start back. Play league schedule and have May Madness. Spiking and protocols make it impossible to play right now."

 
rbg 
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12-03-20 10:27 PM - Post#317560    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

The Yale Daily News looks into how much money the conference could lose by skipping this season.

https://yaledailynews.com/blog/2020/12/03/with- no-...

- Any singular tournament game a team participates in will generate a “unit” for the conference, given for each qualifying team and for each additional game they win. Therefore, placing more teams in the field and having conference members successfully advance increases revenues.

According to Tony Weaver, professor of sports management at Elon University and a former college athletic administrator at several Division I schools, tournament units were initially created as a mode for the NCAA to “spread the wealth” without a blatant commercialization of college athletics.

“For every game a team wins in the NCAA men’s basketball tournament, they’re given a unit over a six-year rolling period,” Tony Weaver said. “A projected dollar amount of what it looks like it’ll be this year — 2021 units [will be] worth approximately $280,000 to $290,000 [per game], and that will be paid out over the next six years. … You’re talking about close to, say, 1.8 to 1.9 million dollars that the Ivy League earns for a game.”

In 2016, for example, Yale’s victory over Baylor in the first round of the tournament earned them a chance to battle Duke in the round of 32 and also earned the Ivy League an additional unit, valued at around a million dollars, that is still being distributed to the conference.

As these tournament units add up, according to Tony Weaver, the NCAA will grant conferences these funds, which are then equally distributed across their membership, with few exceptions. He estimates that per unit, each one of the eight Ivy League schools will pocket approximately $225,000 to $230,000 total over a six-year period. -

- Although these funds are important for all participants in the tournaments, both Karen Weaver and Tony Weaver said that the Ivy League’s financial stability and other means of fundraising have made the cancellation of fall and winter sports not as “big of a hit” as it would be for schools in other conferences.

When asked about the possible effects of having no Ivy League teams in NCAA basketball tournaments this winter, Yale’s Associate Athletic Director for Strategic Communications Mike Gambardella explained Yale’s reasoning behind not participating and the significance of the money provided by the NCAA.

“We are not participating in the tournament because of a conference presidential decision due to health and safety concerns,” Gambardella wrote in an email to the News. “NCAA distribution dollars certainly play an important part in our financial forecasting [and] are used to assist us in a variety of ways including directly assisting our students in emergency situations where financial assistance may be needed.” -

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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12-03-20 10:54 PM - Post#317561    
    In response to rbg

Thanks for this insight.
What payout is there for the league for merely participating, not winning a game?
Unfortunately, that has been the more likely outcome.

 
mrjames 
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12-03-20 11:11 PM - Post#317562    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Every team gets a share to start and then an extra share for each game in which it appears. So, for instance, Cornell got 3 shares for the league in its Sweet 16 run and those two extra shares above expectation ultimately (though technically cash is fungible) became the Ivy League Digital Network. Every year the Ivy champion appears it gets a share, wins just add an extra share (or two, in Cornell’s case).

Also, a share is given even for play-in games, which is why being a 16 seed in the play-in isn’t so bad, because you have a very good chance to pick up an extra share.

 
rbg 
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12-11-20 07:13 PM - Post#317954    
    In response to mrjames

The AP's Doug Feinberg hosted a zoom call with Harvard's Kathy Delaney-Smith, Penn's Mike Martin, Columbia's Megan Griffith and Princeton's Carla Berube this afternoon.

https://twitter.com/AP_Top25/status/13374 277810979...

Some interesting comments:
Harvard women's team had 7 players take the year off. 2 of the seniors were in that group and will come back to play next year.
Princeton had 8 players take a year off and 9 were enrolled. All 3 seniors were enrolled and Carlie Littlefield will be the only one looking to play elsewhere.
Columbia had 5 take the year off. All four seniors enrolled and three might play elsewhere next year.
Penn did not have any students take the year off.

All are big supporters of the Ivy Tournament with Delaney-Smith saying she spent many years lobbying for it. It wasn't until the men's teams were in support did the league seriously consider it.

All would like to see all 8 teams participate in the Ivy Tournament.

Eleah Parker has not made any decision about her remaining year of eligibility.

The work being done with respect to the BLM Movement has been really impactful for the coaches and players. It has allowed all 16 coaches to form relationships and be in frequent contact - in the past, a coach would generally only speak to his/her school counterpart as well as the other coaches in the men's or women's group.

The women's league was ranked #7 nationally last year.

With lots of back-to-back games in other conferences this year, coaches around the country have been calling the Ivy coaches to get their thoughts on how to play these weekend games. As a result of these conversations, Delaney-Smith expects the coaches and teams in the rest of the country to give more respect to the Ivy League.

Zoom calls have been most beneficial in communicating more easily with players (especially those injured or not at practice) and alumni. This will be kept after the pandemic ends.



 
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