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Username Post: Report: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League        (Topic#24732)
MangyOne 
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10-07-20 05:17 PM - Post#314634    
    In response to JimK_LU72

Interesting that it has been announced the President @ Lafayette is stepping down at the end of the school year. Could there be a reason not being told to us?

 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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10-15-20 02:12 PM - Post#314932    
    In response to JimK_LU72

It's been two weeks since prominent sports journalists reported the league was expected to ban non-conference play, but still no league announcement.

Do you think this issue is still in play?

 
Bison137 
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10-15-20 02:51 PM - Post#314943    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
It's been two weeks since prominent sports journalists reported the league was expected to ban non-conference play, but still no league announcement.

Do you think this issue is still in play?




Possibly and hopefully. I am sure there was pushback from Army and Navy. Maybe from some of the others. Would like to think Bucknell was one, but I think Bravman rarely wants to make waves. The fact that the leader of the Presidents' Council, Alyson Byerly of Lafayette, has announced she is leaving, possibly under duress, may undermine her leadership. She is a strong opponent of athletics.

It makes no sense for the league to pass any rule governing whether or not a school can play OOC games - especially with school not in session. If safety is the concern, simply ban OOC games for ten days before the first PL game.




 
KenZ 
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10-15-20 03:13 PM - Post#314944    
    In response to Bison137

agree, and while if as speculate, Byerly and maybe one other are against, i have just as much problem with our leadership if we simply roll over. if Army and Navy are granted exemptions, but no one else, i have a huge problem with that. yes they are different, but every school is different and as B137 says, each school should be able to make the best decision for itself on that aspect of the season.

with revised academic schedule, the school will on break from the conclusion of exams in early December through the end of January.

 
Bison137 
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Report: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
10-15-20 06:25 PM - Post#314967    
    In response to KenZ

  • KenZ Said:


with revised academic schedule, the school will on break from the conclusion of exams in early December through the end of January.





Actually longer than that. Students leave the week before Thanksgiving and don't come back. Final exams are all online and final papers are submitted electronically. So the final day on campus is November 20th. Finals end December 7th.

First day of class second semester is Monday February 1st. That's ten weeks with almost no students on campus.




 
Bison137 
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10-15-20 06:34 PM - Post#314968    
    In response to Bison137

Btw, Bucknell has had 19 cases of covid in two months. They have conducted about 30,500 tests, so the positivity rate has been 06%. Only one case in the past 30 days.

I know things can go bad quickly when it comes to something like covid, but the Bucknell community deserves a lot of credit for keeping it under control. I am sure behavior hasn't always been perfect, but it clearly has been a lot better than on many campuses. And Dr. Bravman and those who worked with him deserve a lot of credit for devising and executing a good plan. Now if he could only execute a good plan when it comes to athletics.




 
DrBison 
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10-15-20 07:14 PM - Post#314969    
    In response to Bison137

Totally agree. Show the student athletes you have confidence and trust in them, and give them a chance to play.

 
bison234 
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10-16-20 07:47 AM - Post#314975    
    In response to DrBison

Maybe I am being too cynical but this seems to be the PL allowing the minimum risk simply to ensure that a team is eligible for the NCAA tournament. Without a team in the tourney, the PL does not get their check and therefore the majority of their revenue for the year. Allowing teams to play non-conference games is only a negative in the eyes of the league office because they see no good coming from it. This decision indicates to me that the league only has themselves in mind, not the student athletes/staffs.

 
jkrun80 
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Report: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
10-17-20 08:05 AM - Post#315002    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
Btw, Bucknell has had 19 cases of covid in two months. They have conducted about 30,500 tests, so the positivity rate has been 06%. Only one case in the past 30 days.

I know things can go bad quickly when it comes to something like covid, but the Bucknell community deserves a lot of credit for keeping it under control. I am sure behavior hasn't always been perfect, but it clearly has been a lot better than on many campuses. And Dr. Bravman and those who worked with him deserve a lot of credit for devising and executing a good plan. Now if he could only execute a good plan when it comes to athletics.


There have been no student cases in the last 4 weeks. The students have been excellent and the athletes especially are taking this very seriously. https://www.bucknell.edu/life-bucknell/fall-re open...

BTW Bravman did not even want to reopen the fitness center this fall. Athletics convinced him 1.) the opportunity to exercise was important to the health of the students and 2.) it could be done safely. They have been proven right. Hopefully they can convince him that the same can be done with varsity athletics.

Edited by jkrun80 on 10-17-20 08:06 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
Bison89 
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Re: port: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
10-20-20 02:51 PM - Post#315144    
    In response to Bison137

  • Bison137 Said:
  • KenZ Said:


with revised academic schedule, the school will on break from the conclusion of exams in early December through the end of January.





Actually longer than that. Students leave the week before Thanksgiving and don't come back. Final exams are all online and final papers are submitted electronically. So the final day on campus is November 20th. Finals end December 7th.

First day of class second semester is Monday February 1st. That's ten weeks with almost no students on campus.



Who is old enough to remember the Bucknell Jan Plan? I did the Jan Plan Sophomore and Junior years. Wow, what a great time!!!
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
bison75 
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Reg: 01-26-06
Re: port: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
10-20-20 03:12 PM - Post#315146    
    In response to Bison89

I took the “know your car” Jan Plan. 😀

 
Bison89 
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Re: port: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
10-20-20 03:43 PM - Post#315148    
    In response to bison75

  • bison75 Said:
I took the “know your car” Jan Plan. 😀



Bison75, please explain. Are you talking about roadtrips most of the month?
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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Report: No Nonconference Play for Patriot League
10-20-20 07:53 PM - Post#315154    
    In response to Bison89

I'm guessing it was a course on basic automotive knowledge. If so, I bet it was one of the classes that has had the longest-term benefit of any he took! I could've used that.

 
bison75 
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10-20-20 08:10 PM - Post#315155    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

Correct, BRW. There was one field trip to a dealership in Williamsport. Let’s just say the course didn’t eat into my gym time. Lots of pickup hoops at Davis.

 
Bison89 
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10-21-20 11:36 AM - Post#315164    
    In response to bison75

Nice! I took Black & White Photography, which was lots of fun. Then, another year, I took The Vietnam War CBS Series, which was VERY intense but informative. Of course, I attended lots of hoops games and had a beer or two.
New season, new team, new dream . . .


 
Bucknellbisonfan21 
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Loc: Bloomsburg
Reg: 11-12-15
10-21-20 03:40 PM - Post#315170    
    In response to JimK_LU72

Looks like Navy will still be hosting and playing in the Veteran’s Classic in November.

 
Bison137 
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10-21-20 03:50 PM - Post#315171    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Looks like Navy will still be hosting and playing in the Veteran’s Classic in November.




That doesn’t surprise me. There was little chance that army or navy would bow down to some weak-willed patriot league presidents who wanted a one size fits all approach, even though there was no reason for it. Hopefully other schools will follow suit. If Covid later becomes an issue on patriot league campuses, games can always be canceled.

Bucknell, by the way, has had only one positive test result in over 35 days. They continue to test everyone frequently.




 
BisonRoadWarrior 
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10-22-20 12:05 AM - Post#315198    
    In response to Bucknellbisonfan21

  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Looks like Navy will still be hosting and playing in the Veteran’s Classic in November.


Source?

 
Bison137 
Professor
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10-22-20 12:13 AM - Post#315199    
    In response to BisonRoadWarrior

  • BisonRoadWarrior Said:
  • Bucknellbisonfan21 Said:
Looks like Navy will still be hosting and playing in the Veteran’s Classic in November.


Source?





https://navysports.com/news/2020/10/21/mens- basket...




 
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