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Username Post: This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities        (Topic#24887)
penn nation 
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12-08-20 06:57 PM - Post#317773    
    In response to bradley

MA is adding more restrictions. My guess is that NY will not be far behind.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-08-20 09:58 PM - Post#317775    
    In response to penn nation

Successful completion of NCAA season basketball season is dubious.

Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 12-08-20 09:59 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
penn nation 
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Re: This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-08-20 10:54 PM - Post#317776    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

Short of a bubble, I would tend to agree.

Of course, anything's possible if teams, leagues and the NCAA simply don't care how many people come down with the virus.

 
rbg 
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This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-09-20 12:16 AM - Post#317778    
    In response to penn nation

In terms of college cases, the NYT is keeping a data base of positive cases.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/c ovid-...

Here are a number of schools with more than 6% of its students testing positive. It doesn't seem that any of them had enough negative comments/pressure (from students, alums, the general public) for them to regret their decisions.

Auburn University - 2,079 (est. 30,500 undergrads & grad students) 6.8% of students
University of Alabama - 3,219 (38,000) 8.5%
University of Colorado - 2,236 (37,500) 6.0%
University of Florida - 5,008 (52,500) 9.5%
University of Georgia - 4,387 (39,000) 11.2%
University of Illinois - 3,892 (34,000) 11.4%
University of Indiana - 3,754 (43,250) 8.7%
Purdue University - 2,700 (44,500) 6.1%
Iowa State - 2,169 (33,500) 6.5%
University of Iowa - 2,749 (31,250) 8.8%
University of Kentucky - 2,845 (29,500) 9.6%
Miami (Ohio) - 2,368 (19,500) 12.1%
Ohio State - 4,665 (60,500) 7.7%
Oklahoma State - 2,167 (24,000) 9.0%
Penn State - 4,353 (47,250) 9.2%
Clemson - 5,086 (26,000) 19.6%
University of South Carolina - 3,037 (35,500) 8.6%
University of Tennessee - 2,022 (29,500) 6.9%
Texas Tech - 2,697 (39,000) 6.9%
BYU - 2,993 (34,500) 8.7%
University of Wisconsin - 4,193 (45,250) 9.3%


Edited by rbg on 12-09-20 12:16 AM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
HARVARDDADGRAD 
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12-09-20 02:23 PM - Post#317803    
    In response to rbg

It's not just the students, it's the impact/spread in the community. Not to blame the crazy rise in cases on just colleges, but it has to be part of the picture.

 
mobrien 
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12-09-20 05:51 PM - Post#317810    
    In response to HARVARDDADGRAD

It sure sounds like Coach K wants to pause the season. As Duke goes...

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story...

 
penn nation 
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This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-09-20 06:09 PM - Post#317811    
    In response to mobrien

I'm already seeing 4 cancelled or postponed Top 25 games alone tonight, 12 total in all of DI.

Edited by penn nation on 12-09-20 06:11 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
palestra38 
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Re: This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-09-20 09:18 PM - Post#317818    
    In response to penn nation

Everyone is an genius. It was obvious that only conference bubbles would work, yet not a single conference tried it.

 
mrjames 
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Re: This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-09-20 10:24 PM - Post#317824    
    In response to palestra38

A lot will depend on whether the network partners would want a May Madness property versus a March Madness one in terms of delaying the season. If they don’t, it’ll be full steam ahead with making March work. And for the bigger conferences with lucrative TV deals, it wouldn’t surprise me if it ultimately led to bubbles.

 
Go Green 
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Re: This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-10-20 09:28 AM - Post#317835    
    In response to palestra38

  • palestra38 Said:
Everyone is an genius. It was obvious that only conference bubbles would work, yet not a single conference tried it.



The PL is attempting a minimal-travel, unbalanced-conference only schedule. That's as close to a bubble as it gets.

We will see if that works...

 
penn nation 
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Re: This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-10-20 03:24 PM - Post#317871    
    In response to penn nation

  • penn nation Said:
Short of a bubble, I would tend to agree.

Of course, anything's possible if teams, leagues and the NCAA simply don't care how many people come down with the virus.



They clearly don't. At this point the national positivity rate is (gulp) 11% with a 7 day average of over 200,000 daily cases. 7 day average of over 2,200 fatalities, and that's gonna start spiking since yesterday we went over 3,000 and today it looks like we're headed closer to 3,500 than 3,000. Over 106,000 currently hospitalized.

What's it going to take? Some high profile coach not just coming down with COVID but dying from it? 5,000 deaths a day?


 
penn nation 
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12-10-20 09:00 PM - Post#317908    
    In response to mobrien

  • mobrien Said:
It sure sounds like Coach K wants to pause the season. As Duke goes...

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story...



No more OOC games for Duke going forward. Let's see if that triggers more moves.




 
SRP 
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12-11-20 04:27 AM - Post#317920    
    In response to penn nation

The Alabama coach’s reaction to Coach K was priceless.

 
SRP 
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12-11-20 04:29 AM - Post#317921    
    In response to SRP

The obvious solution for a set of IL campuses that have switched to remote learning would have been remote basketball. A video game simulation of basketball wouldn’t be that different from a Zoom simulation of a classroom.

 
Silver Maple 
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12-11-20 04:45 PM - Post#317951    
    In response to SRP

  • SRP Said:
The Alabama coach’s reaction to Coach K was priceless.



Shocking. Nate Oats doesn't give a sh1t about the safety of his players. Knock me over with a feather.

 
mobrien 
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12-12-20 04:45 PM - Post#317970    
    In response to Silver Maple

A Florida player who had previously had covid collapsed on the court today, and is currently in critical condition. We don't know what happened with him yet, but it seems like myocarditis is a real possibility.

https://twitter.com/charlesppierce/status /13378306...

 
rbg 
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This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-12-20 08:30 PM - Post#317985    
    In response to mobrien

I'll leave it to those more experienced in reading these documents to see if this player, who tested positive for covid in the summer, would have had cardiovascular testing done prior to the start of pre-season practice.

SEC MEDICAL GUIDANCE TASK FORCE
REQUIREMENTS FOR COVID-19 MANAGEMENT: FALL SPORTS
(Revised: December 3, 2020)

http://a.espncdn.com/sec/media/2020/SEC%20 Task%20F...



Edited by rbg on 12-12-20 08:31 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
rbg 
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12-12-20 08:32 PM - Post#317986    
    In response to rbg

From Friday's New York Times

College Sports Has Reported at Least 6,629 Virus Cases. There Are Many More.
- The N.C.A.A. does not track coronavirus cases, but a New York Times analysis shows the pandemic’s toll across college athletics. Many universities have kept their case counts from the public.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/11/sports/cor onavi...

 
penn nation 
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Re: This proves that Covid can be managed at Universities
12-12-20 08:59 PM - Post#317987    
    In response to rbg

If it is in fact the case that many of Florida's players tested positive over the summer, you have to wonder if that schedule can simply continue as is.

Everyone will be combing over every test taken since the summer for any clues that might have either been missed, ignored, dismissed or covered up.

The SEC guidelines seem pretty clear and detailed. Whether Florida actually adhered to them is another issue, although this document says that ultimately each school gets to decide how to treat each player.

 
penn nation 
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12-12-20 09:45 PM - Post#317989    
    In response to penn nation

28 DI games cancelled or postponed today.

 
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