H78
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03-28-21 05:28 AM - Post#322569
Not sure if it's too early to talk about the coming season, since we're now ending the somewhat truncated NCAA MBB season. What do people see as our potential lineups?
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mrjames
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Re: 2021-2022 Season 03-29-21 01:29 PM - Post#322585
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My guess would be:
Tretout
Kirkwood
Lesmond
Ledlum
Forbes
From there, I expect a ton of competition in a few different buckets:
On-ball guard:
Sakota
Nelson
Freedman
Simon
Wing/Stretch 4:
Hemmings
Catchings
Pitcher
Center:
Ajogbor
Pitcher
Keys for Harvard will be:
1) Finding a good, playmaking PG. Amaker's offense requires it, and if you look at the games where Harvard got stomped in 19-20, they didn't have it. Lots of options here, so I suspect they'll ultimately find a solution, but if it's not Tretout, it might take time (and early Ls) to do so.
2) Ledlum has to shoot better. He shot terribly on 2PT Js, 3s and from the line. Otherwise, he has a decent turnover rate (20%) for a freshman and draws a TON of fouls. He also had a 360 dunk in game action. Finally, he disrupts a ton of shots (5.3% BLK rate in Ivy play, 5th in the league and the only guy in the Top 10 under 6'7). But if he can't make shots, he's gonna be an offensive neutral at best.
3) A few key rookies being AS ADVERTISED. Ajogbor has impressed defensively, which should help a team that had the 2nd and 3rd best block rate players (Lewis/Baker) walk out that door. With Bassey gone, there will likely be more perimeter mistakes to clean up, putting the pressure on a rim protector to make his presence known. Forbes will be that, but this team needs two in case of foul trouble.
4) VACCINE (for the injury bug). Here's a list of players with assist rates of 10% or over (proxy for on-ball guards) that were unavailable for Harvard's final game against Yale: Aiken, Juzang, Kirkwood plus full-year injured players like TMac and Freedman. If Harvard gets pushed six deep at any position again, it's not going to achieve the potential that this team's talent would indicate.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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2021-2022 Season 04-01-21 02:54 PM - Post#322805
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Roy Williams is retiring. Glad Tommy Amaker is a Duke grad. I recall Amaker ‘outcoaching’ Williams in Jacksonville. Almost won that one.
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 04-01-21 02:56 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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04-01-21 03:23 PM - Post#322807
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"I feel like I've won the lottery because Tommy Amaker did a much better job with his team than I did with mine," Williams added. "We were extremely lucky."
I was there. So close. What a win that would have been.
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mrjames
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04-01-21 03:37 PM - Post#322808
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Yeah, Harvard was a slight favorite to win after Siyani's four-point play. Alas, it was not to be. In fact, Harvard was a bigger favorite to beat UNC after that play than it was to beat Cincy after the Bearcats pulled within one and had the ball with 3 to play.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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04-01-21 03:43 PM - Post#322809
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Wes was amazing vs UNC and Kenyatta was crucial in the second half. Had UNC not shot 71.4% on 3’s it could have ended differently
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digamma
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04-02-21 10:36 AM - Post#322841
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Way better than the UNC game in Chapel Hill a couple of years ago.
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digamma
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04-02-21 10:38 AM - Post#322842
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Mike,
Can you remind me what the Ivy is doing about this year eligibility wise? Can we expect one more year from Noah and then a grad transfer year to somewhere else?
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mrjames
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04-02-21 11:48 AM - Post#322844
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Effectively nothing has changed. It looks like on the men's hoops side, there might be a couple players league-wide that can take advantage of the one-time grad rule and compete as grad students, but otherwise, there are going to be a TON of Ivy grad transfers over the next few years. Noah will be a senior and will be eligible to take a grad year elsewhere following the 21-22 season.
If there's any area, though, where Harvard is well stocked in the 2019-2021 classes it is in wing size: Ledlum, Tretout, Sakota, Hemmings and Lesmond. The biggest question for Harvard will be ball handling/final 10 second PnR offense.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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04-04-21 09:21 AM - Post#322932
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Great shots of the Juzang family during last night’s UCLA OT loss to Gonzaga.
Christian’s reaction to an offensive foul call against his brother in the final second of regulation was captured and replayed. Fortunately, in his disbelief he merely yelled “No Way.†Sounds like Amaker’s judicious imprint.
After Harvard, Christian was the top professional draft pick , leading his team to a championship. Uh, that’s of course the Saigon Heat of the Vietnam Basketball Association.
Christian was a warrior for Harvard, seeing significant time at PG due to the injuries to Bryce Aiken. He played through injury his Junior Year, and missed Harvard’s final games of his senior year. Christian, however, was working to be able to return for the 2020 Tournament at Lavietes, but that was not to be.
Both brothers have the hearts of Lions.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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04-05-21 10:37 AM - Post#322944
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More on the Juzangs
https://www.indystar.com/story/sports/college/ 2021...
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H78
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04-15-21 05:08 AM - Post#323198
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Love at the end of the 2nd video, where Christian is "representing" Harvard with that polo shirt!
https://twitter.com/i/status/137843190242 4596480
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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04-15-21 12:21 PM - Post#323218
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Too bad Johnny wasn't issued a matching shirt.
Also, just noticed that Johnny is wearing a boot for his injured right ankle. Amazing.
Finally, Christian explains that he just flew 25 hours from Vietnam to be there.
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