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Penndemonium 
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-29-04
03-20-24 03:57 PM - Post#365911    
    In response to palestra38

Yeah, I liked Caleb's contributions. He started initially, but then got pushed to the bench. I didn't really understand why. He did turn the ball over a bit too much, but I thought he was our only pure ball-handler and would grow. In his senior year, he was more of a shooter for us than a pure ball-handling/assist PG.

 
T.P.F.K.A.D.W. 
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Reg: 01-18-05
03-20-24 04:09 PM - Post#365913    
    In response to Penndemonium

Wasn't Caleb a JuCo transfer?

 
palestra38 
Professor
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Reg: 11-21-04
03-20-24 04:09 PM - Post#365914    
    In response to Penndemonium

You got it exactly--he wasn't a ballhandler and the pressure affected his shooting. Once they let Foreman be the PG, he blossomed. The prior year was one of two peak years for Donahue as a recruiter---with AJ, Goodman and Betley pre-injury. This was the Simmons/Scott year, followed by Bryce/Wang. Then he got Dingle, Martz, Monroe and Lorca-Lloyd in one season. Which states the problem--you can't miss 2 out of 3 years and stay good. Especially now, when anyone can walk who isn't happy and play immediately elsewhere--for money if they are really good.

 
AsiaSunset 
Postdoc
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Reg: 11-21-04
03-20-24 05:14 PM - Post#365920    
    In response to palestra38

I think in this new age it might make sense to bank a couple recruiting slots until March. We only took two in Thrower’s class and 4 last year. That leaves flexibility to add if the right opportunity presents itself.

As of yesterday, 555 players had entered the portal. There were many more that entered today.

Personally I think this is the beginning of restructuring in D1 basketball that will negatively impact us over time. It’s too bad about Perkins or the other Ivy transfers. I guess the 40 year sell isn’t what it used to be. Hopefully they’ll still be good players out there that value an Ivy degree.

 
UPIA1968 
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UPIA1968
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Reg: 11-20-06
03-21-24 10:26 AM - Post#366012    
    In response to AsiaSunset

It used to be that the Ivies competed against semi-pro teams from good colleges. Now they compete against professional teams from good colleges.

Football has been second level for years. Basketball is now too. I don't mind. I do mind when Penn finishes seventh in a league of second level players.

As to the transfer portal. Why shouldn't a kid get to choose where he or she wants to play? It's that way in the pros for the most part. Nobody in Philly complains when the Phils or Iggles sign a good free agent.

 
palestra38 
Professor
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03-21-24 10:55 AM - Post#366013    
    In response to UPIA1968

The only complaints here about Perkins have been that the team's decline and atmosphere appear to have contributed to his decision, not that he made the decision.

 
TigerFan 
PhD Student
Posts: 1893

Reg: 11-21-04
03-21-24 12:19 PM - Post#366014    
    In response to UPIA1968

  • UPIA1968 Said:
Football has been second level for years. Basketball is now too.



Your world may be collapsing all around you but the league has enjoyed its best 12 months in many years with a Sweet Sixteen appearance last March, three teams in the Top 100 this year, and several great players receiving national attention.

 
besnoah 
Masters Student
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Reg: 12-14-05
03-21-24 12:43 PM - Post#366016    
    In response to TigerFan

Happy for Princeton fans to get their licks in now. Gonna be some tough conversations if Mitch and the guys were more focused on his/their next stop than bothering to win in the first round of the ILT or the NIT.

 
SomeGuy 
Professor
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Reg: 11-22-04
03-21-24 12:45 PM - Post#366017    
    In response to TigerFan

For now, yes, statements about the league’s demise are premature. We are still competing at a high level — arguably about as well as the league ever has, at least in the last 40 years or so.

But the NIL landscape may well change that. If it’s just Perkins transferring, this is no different from Dingle, Cambridge, Boudreaux, or Smith. Sometimes top players transfer away when their teams aren’t winning. I guess if Malik Mack transfers, he could fit that same narrative. Though it starts to impact the league’s depth if it becomes more likely that top players on the lower division teams transfer, as it may get even harder to climb back into the top 4. The big question is what the landscape looks like for Pierce, Lee, and Wolf. If the top guys start leaving the teams that are winning the league, which could happen, that’s when we’ve got an issue that could threaten the league’s ability to compete at all. We’re not there yet. But you can see how we could get there.

 
LocalTiger 
Masters Student
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Age: 58
Reg: 11-15-17
03-21-24 02:27 PM - Post#366018    
    In response to SomeGuy

in response to besnoah:

Absolutely no sign that Princeton lacked
effort against UNLV. They were big, shot very
well, and Lee is clearly fighting injury/illness.
I don't know the League's future, but this
Princeton teram represented tech Ivies very
well.

 
besnoah 
Masters Student
Posts: 805

Reg: 12-14-05
2024 Recruiting
03-21-24 02:53 PM - Post#366019    
    In response to LocalTiger

Sorry, I don’t consider Round 1 NIT losses to be adequate representation of what I want from my team. But congratulations on adding another moral victory to the pile!

Edited by besnoah on 03-21-24 02:53 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
LocalTiger 
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03-21-24 03:43 PM - Post#366024    
    In response to besnoah

in response to besnoah:

What a shame. We all live for your approval.

 
besnoah 
Masters Student
Posts: 805

Reg: 12-14-05
2024 Recruiting
03-21-24 08:28 PM - Post#366037    
    In response to LocalTiger

Penn apparently reached out to Makaih Williams (UT Arlington) and Jacob Theodosiou (Wyoming) per ThePortalReport on Twitter.

Also reports on Twitter that Penn contacted Brennan Watkins (VMI transfer) and Seth Hubbard (Western Michigan transfer).

Edited by besnoah on 03-21-24 08:28 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
besnoah 
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Reg: 12-14-05
03-23-24 01:01 PM - Post#366234    
    In response to besnoah

Add AJ Smith from The Citadel to this list.

 
besnoah 
Masters Student
Posts: 805

Reg: 12-14-05
03-27-24 11:43 AM - Post#366598    
    In response to besnoah

Per Twitter, Penn has also reached out to:

Timaris Brown (Rockhurst [D-II]), Dennis Evans (Louisville), Nathan Dudukovich (Thomas More [D-II]), and Rodney Brown Jr. (Cal).

 
yoyo 
Senior
Posts: 366

Reg: 03-25-09
03-27-24 03:18 PM - Post#366609    
    In response to besnoah

  • besnoah Said:
Per Twitter, Penn has also reached out to:

Timaris Brown (Rockhurst [D-II]), Dennis Evans (Louisville), Nathan Dudukovich (Thomas More [D-II]), and Rodney Brown Jr. (Cal).



can you provide the twitter links you are getting these from?


 
91Quake 
PhD Student
Posts: 1127

Reg: 11-22-04
03-27-24 06:32 PM - Post#366618    
    In response to yoyo

Check the portal report and jake lieberman on twitter.

BTW, Columbia is also very active in contacting guys in the portal.

 
Penndemonium 
PhD Student
Posts: 1914

Reg: 11-29-04
2024 Recruiting
03-27-24 07:23 PM - Post#366622    
    In response to 91Quake

I'm too tired to look up all these players, but I did look up Rodney Brown. I'd like to have him on the team. He would be a great net trade for Larson. Possibly even a trade up from Perkins.

Edited by Penndemonium on 03-27-24 07:24 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.

 
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