penn nation
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01-09-23 02:36 PM - Post#349264
Already the third time this year:
https://ivyleague.com/news/2023/1/9/mens-ba sketbal...
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LocalTiger
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01-09-23 07:50 PM - Post#349284
In response to penn nation
Strange choice this week. he did not keep his team in the
Cornell game.
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penn nation
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01-09-23 08:47 PM - Post#349285
In response to LocalTiger
That's rich. There have been seasons where a Tiger has been named POW for gaudy stats, and then buried in an asterisk we see that it was against a DII or DIII school.
Dingle didn't even play against Wilkes this year--imagine the stat line that would have been.
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LocalTiger
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01-09-23 09:19 PM - Post#349286
In response to penn nation
No assists, 0-5 from 3, and the team loses by 19.
Not the player of the week based on that.
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palestra38
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01-09-23 10:26 PM - Post#349287
In response to LocalTiger
See you on Monday.
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SomeGuy
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01-10-23 09:30 AM - Post#349300
In response to LocalTiger
And even with that 0-5 from 3 Friday night, he hit 50% of his 3s for the weekend. The POW obviously had a lot more to do with how incredible he was in the Columbia game. That said, he wasn’t bad at all against Cornell. Just something more akin to his usual high scoring self. Against Columbia he was off the charts good.
Sure, I can see giving POW to somebody on the team that got a sweep. But I have trouble criticizing choosing somebody who averaged 27 points per game for the weekend while playing fewer minutes than usual.
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palestra38
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01-10-23 09:46 AM - Post#349302
In response to SomeGuy
He's just trolling. There's a reason he only listed the 3 point shooting and not the overall shooting for the Cornell game. I didn't realize that only 3 point shooting matters (he went 7-12 from 2 and 7-9 from the line, below average for him). Also, I believe 3 of the missed 3's came after the Cornell run when Penn was trying to throw up 3s to come back. We'll see how Princeton defends him.
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LocalTiger
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01-10-23 11:01 AM - Post#349306
In response to palestra38
7-17 from the floor is nothing to write home about.
Nor is missing shots when they are needed to get back in the game.
Dingle is a scorer, but has not shown any other dimensions.
And in the big game this weekend, he came up small.
Maybe, he does better on Monday, but that would not justify POW
last week.
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palestra38
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01-10-23 11:38 AM - Post#349307
In response to LocalTiger
Agreed that it was not a perfect game, but frankly, no one was close to Dingle in overall scoring for the 2 games over the weekend. So who should have been the Player of the Week? Tosan? Best player on the best team over the weekend? Well, it's arguable but this isn't an MVP award. Dingle outscored Tosan 54-29. That's how these awards usually go.
But I'm happy to name you Awards Commissioner and you can make it a weekend MVP award.
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01-10-23 11:50 AM - Post#349309
In response to palestra38
I can't believe that IVY POW rates any level of controversy.
Here's a hot take: Dingle will be IVY POY unless he goes down with an injury soon. Anyone care to be against me on that one?
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SomeGuy
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01-10-23 12:04 PM - Post#349310
In response to LocalTiger
Not sure how small he really came up. To P38’s point, he missed his last 4 shots, which were all inside the last 5 minutes after the Cornell lead had moved to double digits. While the game was competitive, he was over 50 percent. During Cornell’s decisive run, Dingle didn’t miss a shot. Unfortunately, Cornell scored on 8 straight possessions while only Dingle could score for Penn, and that was the ballgame.
In terms of his game showing other dimensions, I’m not sure what else you want when the kid is second in the country in scoring. Even with that, he’s 12th in the conference in assists. Nobody in the league is doing more on the offensive end than he is.
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penn nation
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01-10-23 12:10 PM - Post#349312
In response to SomeGuy
54 points in 62 minutes.
Dingle had 33 points in only 30 minutes (the entire Columbia team only had 40 at that point). He could very easily have scored somewhere between 40-50 if not for the fact that he was removed with 8 minutes to play.
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Mike Porter
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01-10-23 01:31 PM - Post#349314
In response to penn nation
Silly argument, though not surprising considering the source.
It's simple. I actually agree that Dingle wasn't his best in the Cornell game, but he was magnificent in the Columbia game. Reality is that Jordan's "B" offensive game against Cornell is still better than just about everyone else's "A' offensive game. He wasn't the reason the game against Cornell was lost regardless.
And then you have to look at the "field". No one in the other 1-1 teams on the weekend came close to his combined performance. No one on the 2-0 team came close to his combined performance. Tosan had a good weekend, but he wasn't even the best player for his own team either night, so yeah, not player of the week. Simple.
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OldBig5
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01-10-23 01:50 PM - Post#349317
In response to LocalTiger
7-17 from the floor is nothing to write home about.
Nor is missing shots when they are needed to get back in the game.
Dingle is a scorer, but has not shown any other dimensions.
And in the big game this weekend, he came up small.
Maybe, he does better on Monday, but that would not justify POW
last week.
Go back to a board where someone cares what you think. Or email those who make the selections. Does anyone here show up at the Princeton board when they disagree with a weekly POY selection? If so, let me smack them also.
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LocalTiger
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01-10-23 01:51 PM - Post#349318
In response to Mike Porter
Simple pretty much sums you up.
Tosan had two good games despite foul trouble and
led his team to wins. I will take that over a scorer
whose team goes down by 20.
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Mike Porter
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01-10-23 02:02 PM - Post#349320
In response to LocalTiger
LOL. Tosan is a very good player, good representative of his school and the Ivy League. You I am less of fan of since your whole commentary here adds little value besides a bit of crap talk.
I also would have much preferred that Tosan won Player of the Week (which means basically nothing) and Penn went 2-0 (Dingle would have preferred the same).
So, if this is also your preference and you are happy, why do you give a crap about a pointless "award"? No one here was banging their chest about the award, they were just mentioning it. Really no one even cares about it. We only care that you came here being an genius and responded accordingly.
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Mike Porter
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01-10-23 02:04 PM - Post#349322
In response to Mike Porter
*Note I definitely didn't say genius. 
*Additional note, this is a stats driven "award", always has been and no one else had stats comparable.
Thanks for stopping by
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SomeGuy
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01-10-23 02:22 PM - Post#349323
In response to LocalTiger
For Tosan, the turnovers marred an otherwise strong performance against Cornell. Not sure he was even Princeton’s best player in the game, let alone “led” them to victory.
He was better against Columbia, but again someone else had the best game for Princeton (Allocco).
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LocalTiger
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01-10-23 02:35 PM - Post#349324
In response to SomeGuy
Glad none of you care.
Wonder about the how much
more of this three could be if you did.
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LocalTiger
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01-10-23 02:51 PM - Post#349327
In response to LocalTiger
and if this means Penn folks will stay off the Princeton
site, we have a deal.
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