Eric Von Zipper
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02-11-23 08:37 AM - Post#351302
Princeton -7 1/2 O/U 141
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Dartmouth College 2:00PM
02-11-23 09:03 AM - Post#351304
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Hmmm--seems more of a toss-up to me.
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gokinsmen
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Dartmouth College 2:00PM
02-11-23 03:45 PM - Post#351328
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
40-35 lead at the break.
A really fun back-and-forth game with Dartmouth bringing the defense early. That knocked us off our game but have since recovered. Langborg coming up big, which is great to see. Feels like another nail-biter. Dartmouth needs this game and they're not going away.
Second half, we gotta get the ball inside and let Tosan go to work. Defensively, I don't mind not doubling Adelekun once he's near the basket. He can score over 2 of our guys and Dartmouth is hitting 3s today.
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Tiger81
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02-11-23 03:59 PM - Post#351332
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Tiger 40-35 at the half.
Very tight game.
Cornish scoreless so far but Adelekun and Neskovic are shooting 10-14 and Dartmouth is moving the ball well.They seemed to have the upper hand for most of the half but then Princeton asserted itself in the last 5 minutes.
For the Tigers Allocco and Deven Austin are also scoreless and for the first 10 minutes or so Tosan had trouble getting his shots and when he did, he missed. He then came to life and Pierce and Langborg went 6-9 for 3FGs and that why Princeton took the lead.
Have to believe that most of the above will revert to the mean in 2H.
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TigerFan
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02-11-23 04:13 PM - Post#351336
In response to Tiger81
Big Green score 9 straight to retake the lead. That’s 19-0 for the start of the two halves. Concerned that has become a thing for this team.
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TigerFan
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02-11-23 04:19 PM - Post#351337
In response to TigerFan
When the Tigers are down, everything goes wrong. Defensive lapses, terrible turnovers, cold shooting. Yikes! Down 8.
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gokinsmen
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02-11-23 04:23 PM - Post#351341
In response to TigerFan
Dartmouth out-hustling us on both ends. Rebounding and defense fell off a cliff.
Big Green fighting for their season and our guys are stuck in neutral.
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gokinsmen
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Dartmouth College 2:00PM
02-11-23 04:27 PM - Post#351342
In response to gokinsmen
Feels like the Yale game. I was expecting a nail-biter but this one looks done. This team has a real problem with motivation and focus - they don't "need" this game and it shows.
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TigerFan
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Dartmouth College 2:00PM
02-11-23 04:29 PM - Post#351344
In response to gokinsmen
Agreed. Sadly, the Tigers don’t look they really want it today. They’re not fighting for loose balls or fighting through screens, taking some lazy shots, etc. Peter’s is lights out when he gets the ball in shooting position. Not so much when the pass isn’t perfect and he shoots off the dribble. Game is getting out of control. Down 15.
Edited by TigerFan on 02-11-23 04:29 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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gokinsmen
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Dartmouth College 2:00PM
02-11-23 04:34 PM - Post#351348
In response to TigerFan
Even as a supporter of Ivy Madness (it gets more teams involved), I admit these games are the cost. Win and we're still in first. Lose and we're... tied for first.
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TigerFan
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02-11-23 04:35 PM - Post#351350
In response to TigerFan
6 quick points to cut to 9 then a defensive lapse then a lazy offensive foul. Uggh. Hard to watch. Not sure why Mitch doesn’t throw a full course press at Dartmouth. They have nothing to lose and a week off to recover. I thing else is working.
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TigerFan
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02-11-23 04:40 PM - Post#351356
In response to TigerFan
There’s the press. Tigers get a couple of turnovers and are back in this. Need to make their free throws and they have a chance.
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gokinsmen
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Dartmouth College 2:00PM
02-11-23 05:03 PM - Post#351363
In response to TigerFan
Comeback effort falls short. The press worked like a charm again, but MH didn't use it until too late. For some reason, he still hasn't adjusted to Saturday Ivy refs - they don't call light contact. Another bad FT shooting game didn't help either.
The loss won't have much of an effect on Princeton's seeding/matchups, but it's still disappointing to see such poor energy on "non-essential" games. Hats off to Dartmouth - they needed it more and it showed. We got outworked on both ends.
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sparman
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Dartmouth College 2:00PM
02-11-23 05:04 PM - Post#351365
In response to TigerFan
To paraphrase Yogi Berra, if a team doesn't want to show up motivated for the whole game, people can't stop them.
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gokinsmen
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02-11-23 05:06 PM - Post#351366
In response to sparman
For better or worse, it's all about the tourney. Allocco and Langborg really need to step it up as upperclassmen. Tosan and Caden showed up tonight - no one else did.
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TigerFan
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02-11-23 05:13 PM - Post#351369
In response to sparman
I don’t understand why this team can look so determined one moment and then can seem so unmotivated the next. They’ve played like this all season with the early games where they fell way behind then played all out late in the game to almost win. (Of course the Yale game was the exact opposite.)
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SRP
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02-11-23 09:31 PM - Post#351404
In response to TigerFan
Just watched it. Yes, the Tigers looked sluggish a lot. Yes, the officials jobbed PU repeatedly by not calling fouls that even the Dartmouth announcing crew saw. Yes, my love of the 1-3-1 zone was once again vindicated (use it before it's too late sometime).
But...the story of the game was pretty much bad FT shooting and bad three-point shooting by the Tigers, especially in the second half. 13-20, including a bunch of missed front-ends, and 9-30 from three, would only cut it if the opponent were similarly struggling. But the Big Green were 18-19 at the foul line and 9-21 from three.
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sparman
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02-11-23 09:55 PM - Post#351408
In response to SRP
Yes, the FT was glaring.
Long road trip to spend 2 hours playing like that.
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LocalTiger
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02-12-23 09:43 AM - Post#351435
In response to sparman
Dartmouth is a tough match-up for us.
Hoped we don't see them again at Jadwin.
If we do, it might make sense to playKellman
more. Adelekun is too strong for anyone else.
We need a split this home weekend against
two teams that beat us at their places.
A win against Yale would boost confidence for
March.
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Tiger81
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02-12-23 10:35 AM - Post#351439
In response to SRP
This year’s Tigers have a lot of ways to beat you but are not good enough to withstand off nights by Langborg and Allocco. They got plenty of good looks and in 1H they hit them but the 2H was a different story. 100% agree that Dartmouth in particular is a tough match-up, hoping that the ”friendly confines” next weekend (and in the ILT) will produce better results from the 3-point and foul lines.
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