gokinsmen
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03-29-23 10:15 PM - Post#355339
Didn't have to wait long for a decision...
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1 641273470...
Princeton's Tosan Evbuomwan, the Ivy league player of the year and a breakout star of the NCAA tournament, will forgo his remaining college eligibility and enter the NBA draft, he told ESPN. He will sign with George S. Langberg of GSL Sports Group for representation.
Evbuomwan: "I’ve accomplished everything that I could’ve hoped to at Princeton and I’m ready for the next step in my basketball career. I’m excited to show NBA teams who I am and what I’m capable of as the pre-draft process unfolds."
https://twitter.com/DraftExpress/status/1 641274358...
Evbuomwan would have been the most hotly pursued player in the NCAA transfer portal had he elected to play his fifth year of college eligibility at another school, but will instead begin his professional career after a fantastic NCAA tournament and Sweet 16 run with Princeton.
I think it's definitely the right move - a 5th year would be a waste of time for Tosan. All he needs to do is improve his 3pt shot and that's best done with a professional shooting coach.
For what little it's worth, NBAdraft.net has him as a late 2nd round pick. Even if he's not drafted, I'm sure he'll get a bunch of Summer League/training camp invites.
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Tosan Declares for NBA Draft
03-30-23 05:42 AM - Post#355340
In response to gokinsmen
I think it's definitely the right move - a 5th year would be a waste of time for Tosan. All he needs to do is improve his 3pt shot and that's best done with a professional shooting coach.
He doesn't need another year of classes in graduate school, but I see it as a year on a college campus of a high major, vs. a year in the G league.
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palestra38
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Re: Tosan Declares for NBA Draft
03-30-23 06:42 AM - Post#355342
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
The problem at a high major, if you read the article on North Carolina in the Athletic yesterday, is that everyone is trying to showcase his own credentials for the NBA ---the minute they are not being showcased, it's the transfer portal. This is hurting the high majors as we saw in the Tournament this year. Tosan would not have much of an opportunity to work on his game---it would be competition with everyone else. If he gets drafted, that's a better situation--so is high ranked European ball.
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penn nation
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Re: Tosan Declares for NBA Draft
03-30-23 06:57 AM - Post#355343
In response to gokinsmen
Princeton's Tosan Evbuomwan, the Ivy league player of the year
Thanks for the morning chuckle, P38!
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Tosan Declares for NBA Draft
03-30-23 07:10 AM - Post#355344
In response to palestra38
so is high ranked European ball.
I follow the NBA....not at all. Are there many US graduates who go to Europe and make it back to the NBA?
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palestra38
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Re: Tosan Declares for NBA Draft
03-30-23 07:30 AM - Post#355345
In response to penn nation
Ha---I didn't even notice that in the initial post.
Well, he was "an" Ivy League Player of the Year.
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PennFan10
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03-30-23 09:41 AM - Post#355352
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I think Tosan will get a chance to show what he's got. Not sure he is developed enough to compete at an NBA level. But G League would definitely be better than a HM college. G league teams have real resources with full time strength and player development coaches. And the G league is some high level competition. (see Devin Cannady's success; Jordan Poole with Warriors was a G League guy, etc)
Separately, former Penn Strength coach Steven Brindle was with Milwaukee's G league team and now works for the Sixers. Penn's Darnell Foreman is an assistant coach on Oklahoma City's G-League team.
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LocalTiger
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03-30-23 09:49 AM - Post#355353
In response to PennFan10
It seems like a smart move, even though will miss watching him play.
Every year, he adds new facets to his game. He has NBA-level talent,
and the work ethic to get there. The Ivy League hasn't seen
anyone close to his level in some time.
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PennFan10
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03-30-23 09:52 AM - Post#355355
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We'll see if he is NBA level soon enough. Ivy league hasn't seen his level, but the NBA has a lot of long, athletic guys. He isn't going to be guarded by a big, slow 5. He won't have a physical advantage against most NBA players. His game will have to expand to be successful at that level. Others have done this, but the list isn't very long and the odds are stacked the other way.
Hoping he represents!
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palestra38
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03-30-23 09:53 AM - Post#355356
In response to LocalTiger
There are G-League teams in the New York area, Delaware and DC/Maryland, so perhaps with a drive, you'll still be able to see them (and games are streamed as well)
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LocalTiger
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03-30-23 09:58 AM - Post#355359
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He is more than a long, athletic guy.
He has elite court vision. His passing and defense are NBA ready.
His shooting stroke is a work in progress, but he has made remarkable strides.
It is true that he has NBA size and quickness, which separated him
in the Ivies.
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palestra38
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03-30-23 10:17 AM - Post#355360
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I'm not arguing with you. He has game. But shooting is a required skill of someone his size in the NBA, and that's why he is borderline.
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LocalTiger
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03-30-23 10:52 AM - Post#355361
In response to palestra38
I agree that his shooting needs to improve,
but the gains in the past year show he has
the potential to become an acceptable shooter.
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1LotteryPick1969
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03-30-23 01:21 PM - Post#355374
In response to PennFan10
G league teams have real resources with full time strength and player development coaches.
I don't know much about the G league resources. I'm a bit surprised to hear this.
Meanwhile Devin Cannady is starting, but three point shooting percentage is lower.
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PennFan10
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03-30-23 02:10 PM - Post#355376
In response to LocalTiger
He is more than a long, athletic guy.
He has elite court vision. His passing and defense are NBA ready.
His shooting stroke is a work in progress, but he has made remarkable strides.
It is true that he has NBA size and quickness, which separated him
in the Ivies.
I think you under estimate the number of extremely talented players that never make it in the NBA. Court Vision and passing are simply required skills for entry to the NBA. You also have to play defense unless you are an absolute point machine (Doncic, Curry, etc). Those skills are simply a ticket into the arena. They don't get you NBA jobs. I think Tosan is a special player but I am not sure what he does that is unique to the NBA. He is not an above-the-rim player, he can't shoot at an NBA level, he is only 6-8, and his handle is easily defended by NBA talent.
I hope I'm wrong but the list of players that don't make it and have equal or better skill sets is hundreds long.
He is going to get his shot in the summer and he will have to play his way into a G league spot and then into the NBA if he is going to make it. BTW, I think the same will be true of Dingle next year
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penn nation
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03-30-23 02:32 PM - Post#355378
In response to palestra38
Yeah, before COVID hit we would go to see the Westchester Knicks on occasion. Every once in a while the NY team needed a call up, and some of these guys would do OK in MSG.
G League bodies are a big step up from college, and the players are plenty athletic. Generally speaking, though, the shooting is not quite up to snuff.
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LocalTiger
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03-30-23 02:50 PM - Post#355379
In response to penn nation
Any Ivy player is a long way from the NBA,
but Tosan's skill set and potential make him a far more realistic
prospect than Dingle, a very good scorer but too small
and not nearly rounded or athletic enough for the NBA.
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penn nation
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03-30-23 03:16 PM - Post#355383
In response to LocalTiger
I don't see Dingle ending up in today's NBA.
I don't see Tosan ending up there, either.
Nonetheless, both should have productive professional basketball careers outside of it should they choose to go that route.
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PennFan10
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03-30-23 03:24 PM - Post#355385
In response to penn nation
Tosan has a very common skill set among the hundreds of potential NBA players, most of whom never make it.
Last year 60 players were drafted and 300+ declared for the NBA draft (underclassmen--not including graduating seniors). Not even the 60 who were drafted ended up on NBA rosters. It's a narrow path to make it and you have to have a unique skill set.
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penn nation
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03-30-23 03:51 PM - Post#355389
In response to PennFan10
The skill level is just at another level these days. And more and more big men are out there as well who can also shoot it from range.
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