Penndemonium
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05-04-23 01:54 PM - Post#356142
In response to penn nation
ESPN's rankings of the transfer portal. Dingle #11 overall, and #2 uncommitted.
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/insid...
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SRP
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05-04-23 02:46 PM - Post#356143
In response to Penndemonium
Mid-majors that are not Ivies have flourished through the portal era, e.g. San Diego State, a senior-laden team. Lots of good P5 guys who aren’t happy for one reason or another are in there, and mid-to-mid transfers are common. One impact is that it’s hard to keep talented guys who aren’t playing much.
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palestra38
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Dingle Transferring Continuation Thread
05-04-23 03:21 PM - Post#356144
In response to SRP
Yeah, I noted that in an earlier thread. The real losers are the minor conference teams (like your St Peters of the world) who will only keep stars if they suddenly get good together in a single season. Then they'll all transfer up. But high mid-majors get the Power conference guys who aren't satisfied with their playing time. The Ivies won't lose many because only the unicorns like Dingle will choose to go elsewhere (unless their eligibility is up in the Ivies) over getting the Ivy degree.
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13otto
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 05-04-23 05:20 PM - Post#356146
In response to PennFan10
And roughly 30% of those who enter the transfer portal don't end up at a new school.
So you're saying there's a 30% chance that Dingle doesn't end up at a new school...
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13otto
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05-04-23 05:30 PM - Post#356147
In response to PennFan10
This was a surprise to the coaches as I understand it.
As someone with no inside info, that was my thought when I saw that we are scheduled to go to Houston and Auburn over New Year's. Scheduling those teams to help JD showcase his talents against high major programs would make sense. Without Jordan, not so much.
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CM
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05-05-23 05:59 AM - Post#356153
In response to 13otto
Games against P5 schools are nothing new and have zero to do with having someone like Dingle on the team.
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PennFan10
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05-05-23 01:21 PM - Post#356160
In response to CM
St John's and Pitino are putting on the full court press for Dingle.
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penn nation
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Dingle Transferring Continuation Thread
05-05-23 02:05 PM - Post#356162
In response to PennFan10
Speaking of which, several times a week I drive southbound on I-95 in Westchester, and right by one of the New Rochelle exits, there is an enormous billboard by St. John's welcoming Pitino.
For those not in the know, Iona is in New Rochelle.
I always crack up.
Edited by penn nation on 05-05-23 02:05 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Penndemonium
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05-05-23 02:06 PM - Post#356163
In response to penn nation
An article on the potential landing spots for Dingle.
https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/Colle ge-bask...
The article does worry me a bit - if these are his most likely destinations. I think his best outcome would include a lot of playing time and also the right team role to showcase his skills. I don't know much about the other teams, but some don't look like ideal fits.
I initially was a bit negative on St. Johns, as JD doesn't remind me of the prototype Pitino player. JD plays at a very measured pace. I think of Pitino teams as playing frenetic offense and defense, and having a lot of ball possession and sharpshooting players. The idea of Pitino is growing on me though. First, St. Johns may have more playing time. Second, Pitino teams do create a lot of spacing and the type of shot or dribble-drive openings that Dingle might be able to use. It also might force Dingle to develop parts of his game which could help his NBA development. Finally, I *think* he was from New York, so he should have friends and family support nearby (nychoops?). Even if St. Johns isn't a great team next year, there will be plenty of eyes and attention for the team.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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05-05-23 03:17 PM - Post#356166
In response to Penndemonium
Yeah I think he grew up in Valley Stream (Long Island), which is about eight miles from the St. John's campus.
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SomeGuy
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05-05-23 03:38 PM - Post#356167
In response to 13otto
So you’re saying there’s a chance . . ..
Curious what the numbers are up around the top of the list. And coming from a mid major looking to go higher. As I’ve said, I think Dingle needs to be careful. But he shouldn’t have any problem finding suitors. He’ll have choices, so I find it hard to imagine he doesn’t find a fit.
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Quake Show
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05-05-23 04:38 PM - Post#356168
In response to 13otto
As someone with no inside info, that was my thought when I saw that we are scheduled to go to Houston and Auburn over New Year's. Scheduling those teams to help JD showcase his talents against high major programs would make sense. Without Jordan, not so much.
If Dingle ends up at high major school, it would be considerate and shrewd of the coaching staff to schedule a game against them at the Palestra so that JD can get his sendoff from the Penn faithful, and so that we can finally get a high major on its court that isn't here to play Penn State.
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OldBig5
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05-07-23 08:21 PM - Post#356193
In response to Quake Show
Haven't weighed in on this but posted something about a month ago wondering what was going on and if he was staying. Of course he was I was told.
This seems the best decision for Jordan to increase his odds of eventually making the NBA. Regardless of the talent level surrounding him at Penn the level of competition is not as high as in the Power Five and the Ivy is still a one bid league despite the Princeton run this year.
Good luck to Jordan and next men up. Some of those guys who didn't play much last year will have their chance. Maybe they should have played more last season but we will see what happens.
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andybech
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05-08-23 03:14 PM - Post#356201
In response to OldBig5
I wonder if Jordan realizes his NBA chances are a longshot no matter where he plays, but a year of big time basketball with an NIL deal might not be the worst thing for him regardless of what happens at the next level.
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hoopsfan
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05-08-23 03:27 PM - Post#356202
In response to OldBig5
https://www.zagsblog.com/2023/05/08/penn-trans fer-...
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nychoops
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05-10-23 09:06 AM - Post#356218
In response to hoopsfan
Jordan is down to 2 schools. He won't be staying in draft. I'll have some unpopular things to say once this settles in
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tioga
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05-10-23 12:12 PM - Post#356224
In response to nychoops
Why is that necessary?
What do you intend to accomplish?
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rbg
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Dingle Transferring Continuation Thread
05-10-23 12:54 PM - Post#356225
In response to tioga
nychoops has always been & continues to be a respectful voice in this forum, supporting student-athletes and sharing honest views about the state of the program.
Compared to most people on the board, nychoops appears to have first-hand knowledge from interactions with student-athletes, which makes the comments more relevant.
I, for one, am eager to hear those thoughts whenever the time is appropriate.
Edited by rbg on 05-10-23 12:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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PennFan10
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Dingle Transferring Continuation Thread
05-10-23 01:04 PM - Post#356226
In response to rbg
When his name didn't appear on the combine invite list or the G League list, it was a foregone conclusion he would withdraw.
St John's is one of the two schools. The other is probably from the list we have seen/heard (Indiana, Kentucky, Miami).
If he is transferring so he can play in the NCAA tournament and against HM competition for a possible NBA run in a year, the only two choices should be Kentucky or Miami. St Johns is a rebuild (though it will happen fast) and Indiana, though it's B10, doesn't seem like a good fit for JD's style. I haven't seen anywhere that Kentucky is pursuing any transfers but Dingle's father has the Calipari connection.
I for one welcome NYCHoops feedback.
Edited by PennFan10 on 05-10-23 01:05 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Penndemonium
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05-10-23 02:49 PM - Post#356232
In response to PennFan10
I was on a Penn athletics call yesterday for a team that is definitely in the thick of Ivy championships. The coach said that to combat HYP brand and financial advantages, the coaching staff knows it needs to work harder than any other coaching staff. From nychoops' past posts, I think this may be part of the comments from a recruiting standpoint. Despite fine people and professional coaching, the team may not be outworking, outsmarting, and outhustling the rest. I suspect there's more here than normal too, in terms of the handling specifically of Dingle. Nychoops sounds a bit more chaffed than usual and he's understandably quite protective of Dingle.
Nychoops, not trying to bait you. Just speculating. 
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