GoQuakersGo
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06-16-23 02:22 PM - Post#356825
Looks like we got our first commit of 2024:
https://twitter.com/Johnnie7Walter/status /16697695...
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GoQuakersGo
Sophomore
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Re: Johnnie Walter - 2024 Commitment
06-16-23 02:23 PM - Post#356826
In response to GoQuakersGo
Seems like he is actually a transfer from Cal State Northridge
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Streamers
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06-16-23 04:04 PM - Post#356828
In response to GoQuakersGo
We can use another PF this fall.
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Penn90
Masters Student
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Reg: 11-22-04
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06-16-23 05:40 PM - Post#356829
In response to Streamers
He's wearing #3 -- that's Dingle's old number.
Man, that's cold!
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weinhauers_ghost
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Johnnie Walter - 2024 Commitment
06-16-23 07:04 PM - Post#356832
In response to Penn90
Yeah, that seems a little heartless.
Let's hope this guy can help us. According to basketball reference, he was listed as a sophomore on CSUN's roster, but not on either of the two prior seasons' rosters. He was listed at 6'9", 210lbs, roughly the same as Larson. Averaged 1.0ppg, 1.9rpg.
Looks as if he's still a project.
Edited by weinhauers_ghost on 06-16-23 07:17 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Streamers
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06-16-23 07:15 PM - Post#356833
In response to weinhauers_ghost
Wore 4 at CS Northridge. Thrower has that one.
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Penndemonium
PhD Student
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06-16-23 07:16 PM - Post#356834
In response to Penn90
I watched some high school video of him. He looks like he would be a great player for us. We can certainly use a big who can run the floor, finish above the rim, is agile in the paint, and shoot the three. He seemed to have a reasonable touch. That said, Cal State Northridge is one of the worst teams in D1, ranked 50 places below Penn. He seems to have only averaged 10 minutes a game, and has low usage, low efficiency, and nothing that really stands out except for decent rebounding.
https://www.ncsasports.org/mens-basketball-recru it...
Can't figure this one out. If he can arrive ready to use his body and rebound, he'll be fine. We would need that. He can learn the perfect role by watching how the Miami Heat rebounded against the Celtics in this year's Eastern championships and how Bam Adebayo plays defense and passes.
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SomeGuy
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06-16-23 08:01 PM - Post#356836
In response to Penn90
The obvious conclusion is that Dingle was forced out to make room for this new #3.
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mbaprof
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06-16-23 10:01 PM - Post#356838
In response to Penn90
number 3 should be retired now in honor of booney salters
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AsiaSunset
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06-17-23 10:06 AM - Post#356839
In response to mbaprof
I just had a peak at the video. Seems to me Walter is a Gus Larson type. I personally felt Gus would really help Penn in time and was disappointed things didn’t work out that way for Gus and Penn.
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Streamers
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06-17-23 12:32 PM - Post#356840
In response to AsiaSunset
I'm not going to get too excited over his Hotchkiss tape, but I saw skills there on offense I never saw from Larson and he could easily put another 10-15 pounds on that frame if he hasn't already. I agree with the poster above who said the ability to help out on the defensive boards will be key to his PT, and it appears he is quick enough to cover the 3-4's he would see in our league. Combine that with a reliable baseline 3 and we would have a very useful piece.
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Penndemonium
PhD Student
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Johnnie Walter - 2024 Commitment
06-17-23 04:37 PM - Post#356843
In response to Streamers
I have made forecasting recruits from high school video into a faux science and pastime. I give Walter an A- on tools, but a B- on physical presence for the college game. So he has upside potential to really contribute.
He is quite quick, has interesting footwork and spin moves, and has better than average touch. I didn't see from the video whether he can occupy the paint, clear boards, and play physical matchup defense. His high school moves were impressive, but benefited on his superior size and athleticism. I only saw some evidence of passing, but I suspect he has good potential there. The physical presence seem to be the reason he had limited impact at CSN to date - the same issues why I think Larson was never going to have an impact in college despite tantalizing skills. His development in these areas will guarantee a big role on the team. Otherwise, he will have to contribute as a face-the-basket small forward and be a shooter and penetrator. That is a hard role to fill for big men at Penn. I had high hopes for Holland as a rare player to succeed in this role, but he hasn't to date.
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AsiaSunset
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06-17-23 05:33 PM - Post#356844
In response to Penndemonium
Both Gus and Johnnie remind me of Robert Baker who played for Harvard. Baker had a weight issue in terms of playing stronger frontcourt players but developed into a niece piece as a 4 in that rotation. He had a nice touch from the corner, was a good weak side rebounder and defender and was a difficult match up for Ivy rivals. But - it took him time to develop and find a D1 fit and was never a star.
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SteveChop
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06-29-23 09:11 AM - Post#356998
In response to AsiaSunset
DP article this morning
https://www.thedp.com/article/2023/06/penn- mensbas...
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palestra38
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06-29-23 09:42 AM - Post#357002
In response to SteveChop
Well, if he can play at all, a great pickup. Penn desperately needs height and a guy who plays inside who can hit FTs
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Penndemonium
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06-30-23 04:51 AM - Post#357042
In response to palestra38
If Johnnie wants to assure himself a spot in the lineup, he needs to use his body from the waist down for rebounds and defense. He seems to have plenty of other skills to contribute upside, but he won't stay on the court without those two things first.
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CM
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06-30-23 06:40 AM - Post#357043
In response to palestra38
He was on a terrible team in a not great conference and had more personal fouls than points. Expecting much out of him in the short term seems like a lot of wishful thinking.
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palestra38
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06-30-23 07:47 AM - Post#357045
In response to CM
I have no expectations ever of new players until they play. He put up some nice HS numbers and didn't play much last year as a freshman. Who knows what we are getting other than a big guy who can shoot?
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Streamers
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06-30-23 08:19 AM - Post#357049
In response to palestra38
I have no expectations ever of new players until they play. He put up some nice HS numbers and didn't play much last year as a freshman. Who knows what we are getting other than a big guy who can shoot?
You make him sound like Wang.
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palestra38
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06-30-23 08:57 AM - Post#357050
In response to Streamers
I would happily take that. Wang was much bigger, though
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