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mbaprof 
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09-27-23 08:53 AM - Post#358097    

Inquiror is a series on Nil in the big five
Nova is today
Here is the gist of it


According to three sources with direct knowledge of the Villanova collective’s coffers, this season’s total payout to the men’s team is roughly $3 million, with scholarship players receiving roughly $75,000 apiece — in addition to those scholarships.

 
palestra38 
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Re: Nova nil
09-27-23 10:51 AM - Post#358102    
    In response to mbaprof

Scholarship players receiving AT LEAST $75,000 per player. But 12 X $75,000 = $900,000. That leaves $2.1 million to be distributed to the BEST players. The top players will get far more than $75,000. That's the only way to compete. And it shows, once again, that Ivy basketball is essentially dead. It's one thing not to compete with scholarships--entirely another to not compete for professional salaries.

 
Penndemonium 
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Nova nil
09-27-23 02:17 PM - Post#358109    
    In response to palestra38

I didn't love NCAA amateurism rules, and I'm all for players getting paid. But I'm also all for student athletes being students first. I don't like how NIL has evolved, but I can't think of a fair enforceable solution. In theory, NIL could let the Ivies bust through the scholarship issue - if any of the league teams committed to substantial NIL budgets. I don't see it happening, though.

 
TheLine 
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09-27-23 08:28 PM - Post#358124    
    In response to Penndemonium

What could possibly go wrong with an unregulated system in which deep pocketed boosters splash money around on 17-21 year olds? Or on kids younger than that because the money trickles into AAU and high schools?


 
UPIA1968 
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09-27-23 09:50 PM - Post#358126    
    In response to TheLine

If college bb is now professional, then the free market is obviously the best way to handle it. Economic regulations almost always lower performance in markets

This whole debate is about whether the schools like the Ivies should find a way to establish a truly amateur league. We are headed for Division II anyway.

 
TheLine 
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09-27-23 10:04 PM - Post#358127    
    In response to UPIA1968

While I get your first point, we'll see how it plays out. I think it could work out well in some sports, like baseball. While I have some doubts about basketball, then again the coaching ranks already has its fill of shady characters. It's not like Pitino has to change his MO.

Agree with your point 2, that looks to be the most likely path forward.

It would be interesting if the Ivies decide on a heel turn. Whose alums have deeper pockets afterall?


 
Penndemonium 
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Re: Nova nil
09-27-23 11:28 PM - Post#358130    
    In response to TheLine

True, but our alumni may be pretty jaded about athletics. It's not the religion it is at some schools and communities.

  • TheLine Said:
While I get your first point, we'll see how it plays out. I think it could work out well in some sports, like baseball. While I have some doubts about basketball, then again the coaching ranks already has its fill of shady characters. It's not like Pitino has to change his MO.

Agree with your point 2, that looks to be the most likely path forward.

It would be interesting if the Ivies decide on a heel turn. Whose alums have deeper pockets afterall?





 
mbaprof 
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09-28-23 09:24 AM - Post#358131    
    In response to Penndemonium

Couple of thoughts-
We havent really been in the running for top prospects out of HS, Jordan had more mid major offers.

What I do see happening is that guys who blow up in college, get big offers via the portal and Ivy kids are smart enough to finish early

See Wyatt Hensler in Baseball, he withdrew from draft and said he was coming back for Senior year and just anounced that he is going to Texas A&M for his "grad" year so he nust have completed courses over the summer



 
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