Eric Von Zipper
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11-18-23 08:28 AM - Post#359382
Opens Princeton -7 O/U 139 1/2
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Tiger84
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11-18-23 03:53 PM - Post#359389
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Slow start, 1-11 from outside, really clicking on all cylinders the last portion of the half.
Hoping they can extend the lead and get some extended looks at Davis, Huggins, Hicke, Scott etc.
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Tiger81
Masters Student
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Loc: Montclair, NJ
Reg: 11-21-04
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11-18-23 03:55 PM - Post#359391
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Tigers up 38-27 at the half despite shooting 4-20 3FGs. Defense and tough points around the rim made a big difference after a very sluggish start that left them behind 20-15. Monmouth missed a lot of layups, this could be a lot tighter game.
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Tiger81
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11-18-23 04:05 PM - Post#359392
In response to Tiger81
Correction: Tigers were behind 20-17 and then out-scored Monmouth 18-10 in the last 9:34 of the 1H.
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gokinsmen
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Monmouth
11-18-23 04:53 PM - Post#359395
In response to Tiger81
Say it with me now... Gritty. Resilient. Road. Win.
82-57 is a "gritty" win? Surprisingly... yes. We started ice-cold from 3 and Monmouth was super-physical underneath the hoop. But the guys (once again) weathered the storm and won big once the Hawks ran out of gas.
- "Every time a bell rings, an angel gets its wings" and every time a lead shrinks, Zach Martini hits a three.
- Allocco is still averaging 19ppg on ~70% shooting. What a red-hot start.
- This Iron Five's ability to stay out of foul trouble in very physical games is so impressive. Only Peters got in trouble and it didn't hurt us. Meanwhile, the Hawks got into foul trouble early and let us get easy points at the line.
- The only real negative is that Davis doesn't look ready for prime time yet. Huggins looked improved though; he can help on defense and the boards. I guess we got spoiled by last year's freshmen being so advanced.
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Eric Von Zipper
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11-18-23 04:54 PM - Post#359396
In response to Tiger81
A workman-like 25 point victory, holding Monmouth to under 60 points at home.
Something good may be possible. Let's see how they do @ St. Joe's.
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umbrellaman
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Reg: 11-21-04
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Re: Monmouth
11-18-23 05:17 PM - Post#359400
In response to gokinsmen
Jack Scott had a great dish as well as a layup off an offensive rebound. I think he and Davis ought to be able to provide backcourt depth by conference play.
I agree that there were encouraging signs amongst the younger bigs. Frontcourt depth is more questionable.
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SRP
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11-18-23 05:23 PM - Post#359401
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Exciting so far. Up to 68 on KenPom. Nice to score 143% of the opponent without shooting the lights out from beyond the arc.
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gokinsmen
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Monmouth
11-18-23 05:32 PM - Post#359402
In response to umbrellaman
Scott is definitely the most capable bench player we have right now. I'm sure he'll be big for us as an upperclassman. I just hope we can get Deven Austin back midseason. Even 15mpg of his mistake-free, 3-and-D play would be a huge boost.
Whenever our young reserves enter the game, our offense grinds to a halt. Lots of turnovers and wild misses. They do look okay defensively though (Davis included).
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Tiger81
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11-18-23 06:39 PM - Post#359408
In response to gokinsmen
Jack Scott has been the first guard off the bench, followed by Davis with Hicke also getting some non-garbage time minutes. Jacob Huggins is the only reserve forward who has seen meaningful action, so it appears that Vernon Collins and Phil Byriel have not taken a big step up this year. Derek Sangster has also not seen the court much yet. I agree that so far the freshmen have not been defensive liabilities.
At some point foul trouble is going to force Coach Henderson to play more combinations but so far, so good.
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Tiger69
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 11-18-23 09:48 PM - Post#359453
In response to Tiger81
I never expected us to win our first four games. What lies ahead? Who knows? But Ivies certainly look tough so far. Two bids to NCAAs? If so, I’ll cease my yammering about the stupid Tournament.
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whitakk
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11-18-23 10:40 PM - Post#359456
In response to Tiger69
Much different rotation from Mitch today - starters only played about 5 minutes together (after playing ~20 minutes together in the first three games). Peters' foul trouble forced that in the 2H, but Mitch did it in a clean 1H too.
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ToothlessTiger
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11-19-23 05:46 AM - Post#359460
In response to whitakk
Tigers at #68 on kenpom rankings, Bulldogs now at #71
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Tiger84
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11-19-23 03:09 PM - Post#359475
In response to ToothlessTiger
Still a ways away from #2BidIvy, but that narrative that the league is Yale’s to lose is out the window.
Looks like the biggest remaining challenges are Furman, St Joe’s, and 4 games against Messrs. Jones and Earl.
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gokinsmen
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Monmouth
11-19-23 03:21 PM - Post#359476
In response to Tiger84
I think Delaware might be the toughest non-conf game remaining. They beat us last year and look to have improved this season. And Harvard is going to be serious trouble with Malik Mack lighting it up. What a find.
Last season's "sweep" of Harvard was by a combined 5 points. I'm penciling in a split this year.
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Eric Von Zipper
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11-19-23 03:49 PM - Post#359477
In response to gokinsmen
After beating Monmouth 82-57 yesterday, Princeton is now projected to finish the regular season 22-5 (11-3 Ivy).
• The odds that the Tigers make the NCAA tournament are up to 51%, an increase of 13% since yesterday.
• We currently rank Princeton as the #73 team in the country, and the #1 team in the Ivy.
• Next game: Wed, Nov 22 at #192 Old Dominion. Our power ratings give the Tigers a 69% chance to win.
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TigerFan
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11-19-23 07:17 PM - Post#359484
In response to Eric Von Zipper
One game at a time, friends. ODU is a tough place to play.
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SRP
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11-20-23 12:30 AM - Post#359505
In response to TigerFan
Yeah, this gauntlet of road games without consistent bench contributions against teams probably up to play Princeton given the buzz—not going to be any easy ones.
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