Eric Von Zipper
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12-30-23 08:53 AM - Post#360971
Princeton -4 1/2 O/U 143 1/2
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1LotteryPick1969
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Re: Delaware
12-30-23 12:08 PM - Post#360975
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Will be there!
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LocalTiger
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12-30-23 01:19 PM - Post#360977
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Tough game. Delaware's high scorer is a match-up problem for us.
Caden needs to avoid foul trouble.
Go Tigers!
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Tiger81
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12-30-23 01:36 PM - Post#360978
In response to LocalTiger
Trentonian game day piece says Jyáre Davis might be the best forward we face all year, last year against the Tigers he went for 23/9/7 in Jadwin
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TigerFan
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Delaware
12-30-23 03:15 PM - Post#360981
In response to Tiger81
Delaware looks tough in early going with a 9-2 lead until Tigers pull back within a couple. Blake being guarded closely on the perimeter and has 2quick turnovers. Jack Scott in to replace him.
Edited by TigerFan on 12-30-23 03:17 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Vonsid
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12-30-23 03:18 PM - Post#360982
In response to TigerFan
Caden looking hungry so far.
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TigerFan
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12-30-23 03:22 PM - Post#360983
In response to Vonsid
Blake hits a long 3 to give the Tigers a 6 point lead. Big run for Princeton!
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-30-23 03:48 PM - Post#360984
In response to TigerFan
Can't ask for a better half than that. Slow start but they shook off the rust real quick.
Keep up the energy on defense and let's ice this road win.
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Tiger81
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12-30-23 03:53 PM - Post#360985
In response to TigerFan
Nice first half for the Tigers, 43-27, excellent D and 8-16 3FG shooting, almost all in rhythm with 11 assists on 16 FGs. Gakwasi appears to be taking Hicke’s first-half minutes but he was -4 and was replaced by Davis.
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SRP
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12-30-23 04:12 PM - Post#360987
In response to Tiger81
Defense is not looking great judging from the box score. Only better three-point shooting powering the Tiger lead.
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Vonsid
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12-30-23 04:19 PM - Post#360988
In response to SRP
We are not giving them many open looks. D is good.
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Tiger81
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12-30-23 04:20 PM - Post#360989
In response to SRP
27 points on 40% shooting with very few easy buckets in the first half for Delaware. I thought the Tiger D was active and well-positioned, and their energy level coming off two blowouts was high.
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SRP
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12-30-23 04:23 PM - Post#360990
In response to Tiger81
Delaware shooting 21-33 from two-point range with many layups.
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Vonsid
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12-30-23 04:26 PM - Post#360991
In response to SRP
Perfectly fine. We are not letting them shoot the 3.
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-30-23 04:26 PM - Post#360992
In response to SRP
I think we look pretty good on defense. Delaware mostly getting contested midrange 2s - they're a good team, their Rider loss notwithstanding.
We've struggled on defense of late, but today looks like a return to form. We're not a great defensive squad but we got a little too soft after the ODU win.
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Eric Von Zipper
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12-30-23 04:27 PM - Post#360993
In response to gokinsmen
It's martini time!
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ToothlessTiger
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12-30-23 04:38 PM - Post#360995
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Uh oh. Davis heating up. 3:57 to go. Hang on Tigers
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SRP
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12-30-23 04:38 PM - Post#360996
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Lead down to 10. Outscored by 6 so far in the second half.
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gokinsmen
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12-30-23 04:41 PM - Post#360997
In response to Eric Von Zipper
Sloppy offense leading to easy buckets/FTs for Delaware - lead down to 6.
Oof, let's get it together.
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Vonsid
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12-30-23 04:41 PM - Post#360998
In response to gokinsmen
Yes but these last 3 fouls on and one’s have been rediculous calls.
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gokinsmen
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12-30-23 04:58 PM - Post#361000
In response to Vonsid
Drumgoole nails 3 straight treys to make it a 1pt game. Ugh.
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TigerFan
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12-30-23 05:02 PM - Post#361001
In response to gokinsmen
Ugghh.
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TigerFan
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12-30-23 05:02 PM - Post#361002
In response to TigerFan
Gotta makes these and then actually play some defense.
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-30-23 05:05 PM - Post#361003
In response to TigerFan
WHEW. Disappointed to see a blowout turn into a nailbiter, but hey, it's still a road win against a solid team.
Not to make excuses, but the long time off between D-I games may explain the flagging energy in the final 8 minutes. This is the first time I can recall us collapsing like this. And they still won.
Bring on conference play! Gonna be a dogfight.
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SRP
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Delaware
12-30-23 05:08 PM - Post#361004
In response to gokinsmen
Eleven layups conceded in the second half, then Drumgool got hot from three. But good three-point offense and timely rebounding win the day for a decent road win. That sort of second half won’t cut it in many Ivy games, though..
Edited by SRP on 12-30-23 05:09 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Tiger81
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Delaware
12-30-23 05:13 PM - Post#361005
In response to gokinsmen
Yeah, giving up 55 points in the second half was ugly after a very disciplined effort in the first half. But they hung on when the home team had the crowd and momentum behind them.
Fun stat: in a 2-point game, Dalen Davis was +18 in 13 minutes while scoring just 2 points!
Edited by Tiger81 on 12-30-23 05:14 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-30-23 05:18 PM - Post#361006
In response to SRP
This was ugly for sure, but I'm also impressed that we've been in 4 nailbiter finishes this season (Duquesne, Furman, St. Joe's, Delaware) and pulled out 3 wins. And the 1 loss involved Pierce being fouled out.
That's the kind of grit I like to see. It's what good teams do.
Also, you have to get a bit mathematical and realize that 16pt leads against good teams are flukey. Winning by 2 pts on the road against a Delaware team that beat us last year is about what you'd expect. Hence Vegas predicting a 3pt win before the tip.
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SRP
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12-30-23 05:40 PM - Post#361007
In response to gokinsmen
I love Tiger 81’s stat about Davis.
I like it when a team plays to gain ground even when they’re ahead (until the point where clock-killing is a dominant concern). You’re up 16 at the half, how about trying to go on a run at the beginning of the second half? Always be closing, as the sales guys used to say. That means getting stops.
Of course that’s tough to do on the road. But those teams in the top 75 of the KenPom rankings on D probably pull it off more frequently.
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gokinsmen
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Delaware
12-30-23 05:51 PM - Post#361008
In response to SRP
Of course that’s tough to do on the road.
This is huge. Princeton's 6-1 road record is the best in D-I. It's amazing how much worse "elite" teams get when playing true road games.
KenPom doesn't adjust for home/road/neutral games, which seems crazy to me. That's another reason I follow NET rankings more closely.
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