palestra38
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03-05-24 01:56 PM - Post#364570
https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2024/03/05/d...
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SRP
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03-05-24 08:41 PM - Post#364609
In response to palestra38
Would anyone notice if Dartmouth players went on strike?
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Go Green
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03-06-24 05:17 AM - Post#364615
In response to SRP
Would anyone notice if Dartmouth players went on strike?
Harvard would.
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mbaprof
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03-06-24 11:12 AM - Post#364633
In response to Go Green
Dartmouth should really use this as an excuse to eliminate the basketball programs, spend the $ on Hockey, Skiing and Figure Skating
Cant compete with that location and never will
No one will miss the winter trips to Hanover
If Dartmouth left Ivy hoops, then you could bring in Army/Navy (of course you could still do that)
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palestra38
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03-06-24 11:50 AM - Post#364635
In response to mbaprof
Army/Navy don't fit the mold of the Ivies in any way. Dartmouth isn't going anywhere. They wouldn't be permitted to stay in the Ivies if they withdrew from basketball. And the union issue will be on appeal for years.
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Go Green
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03-06-24 12:58 PM - Post#364645
In response to palestra38
Army/Navy don't fit the mold of the Ivies in any way. Dartmouth isn't going anywhere. They wouldn't be permitted to stay in the Ivies if they withdrew from basketball. And the union issue will be on appeal for years.
My labor law expertise is limited to handling a few cases as a judicial clerk on a court that heard quite a few labor cases (at least in those days). But I would not be surprised if cutting MBB in retaliation for forming a union would result in legal consequences....
And besides, IMHO it would really be a dickish move on Dartmouth's part. That's not our style. While it's obvious that Dartmouth is unhappy with the unionization, it is far more likely that the college continues to challenge the union through the legal process (which, as you say, will take quite a while). By then, everyone will have calmed down a bit...
Winning last night certainly helped MBB's cause. Can't hurt to say that we're undefeated after unionizing!
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SRP
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04-13-24 12:13 AM - Post#367356
In response to Go Green
The president responds nay:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/dartmouth-wi ll-bust-i...
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sparman
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04-13-24 06:23 AM - Post#367358
In response to SRP
I am sure I am not the only person who agrees with most of her sentiments. I get the feeling she is directing her comments as much at her fellow presidents as at alums and fans.
And it's hard to read these comments and not come away thinking D3 could be a real possibility down the road, or possibly even a split of the league should a few better endowed schools decide to remain relevant in D1 sports although I think that outcome is very unlikely.
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CM
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04-13-24 06:35 AM - Post#367359
In response to sparman
Not that recruiting at Dartmouth has ever been easy, but can you imagine how hard it's going to be going forward?
Coach has to explain all this on top of convincing a high school kid to sign up for 6 month long winters?
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JDP
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08-21-24 05:58 PM - Post#370951
In response to CM
Per an ESPN update, the legal jockeying continues:
https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketba ll/story...
But a recent third circuit ruling in Johnson vs. NCAA that holds NCAA athletes can be considered employees certainly makes the outcome more in question … and likely a SCOTUS ruling (and they have been leaning more pro student-athlete)
Not sure what to make of all this, other that we are in a state of potential profound change.
https://www.maynardnexsen.com/publication-theyre-i...
https://www.littler.com/publication-press/pub licat...
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rbg
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12-31-24 05:05 PM - Post#376052
In response to JDP
Dartmouth basketball withdraws petition to unionize.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/d artmouth-...
- The Dartmouth men’s basketball team seeking to unionize has withdrawn the team’s petition to the National Labor Relations Board, which quickly closed the case. The timing of the withdraw — in the final hours of 2024 on Tuesday — was fitting in that the decision reflects what may lie ahead for the college sports labor movement.
Why now? With this timing, the union representing Dartmouth — the Service Employees International Union, Local 560 in New Hampshire — made sure the request was ruled on by the current NLRB, which reflects Joe Biden’s pro-labor politics. Requests to withdraw are not automatically granted by the NLRB, so had the union waited, or not withdrawn at all, it risked a Republican-controlled NRLB setting a long-term precedent by squashing the unionization effort. A key date is President-elect Donald Trump’s inauguration on Jan. 20.
“By filing a request to withdraw our petition [Tuesday], we seek to preserve the precedent set by this exceptional group of young people on the men’s varsity basketball team,” Chris Peck, president of the union representing the Dartmouth players, said in a statement. “They have pushed the conversation on employment and collective bargaining in college sports forward and made history by being classified as employees, winning their union election 13-2, and becoming the first certified bargaining unit of college athletes in the country.
“We are extremely disappointed that Dartmouth chose not to respect the team’s decision and federal labor law by refusing to bargain, thus violating their own Code of Ethical Business Conduct.” -
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