Bison137
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02-11-07 10:36 PM - Post#30126
Based on the published reports, Colgate today scored to take the lead on American with 0.2 seconds left. That's right - a two-point lead with 0.2 seconds left and 94 feet away. Not even enough time to catch and shoot. At that point, a third grade girls team would almost surely have won. In fact if Emmett had left all five starters standing by the CU bench they probably would have won (assuming a fair start to the clock, a reasonable chance playing at home).
So what happened? American ran the oldest play in the book in this situation - one I've never seen work before, and one that Colgate should have been thoroughly prepared for with 0.2 seconds left. They had their inbounder run the baseline after sneaking in Eitutavicius beside the CU player who was guarding the inbounder. The unprepared CU player apparently ran over Eitutavicius for a foul that sent him to the other end, shooting 1-and-1. Since there occasionally is justice, Eitutavicius hit them both to send the game into OT. AU of course won in OT.
If these reports are correct, I think if I were the Colgate AD, I would fire Emmett before he even got to the locker room.
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Bison137
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-11-07 11:12 PM - Post#30127
In response to Bison137
I just realized that this was an ESPNU game, so the play may be on SportsCenter tonight. Stay tuned.
BTW, the CU fans packed Cotterell for the TV appearance - an "announced" crowd of 523, which probably means 225 were actually there. I think their attendance formula is to double the actual crowd and then add 73. Or maybe that was last year's formula? I wonder what the TV audience thought of the crowd?
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-12-07 12:14 AM - Post#30128
In response to Bison137
After watching the film clip highlight of the play that's on the ESPNU.com website, all I can do is just shake my head in disbelief about two things. They are: first, that Colgate could be that stupid on the court with 0.2 seconds left, and second that they have no shame about claiming 500+ fans in what clearly was nowhere near that number visible on tv. Since the AU player ran along the baseline you could actually see the stands on both sides - if there were 200 people there total I'd be surprised.
That said - I have to agree with some of the folks over on the H.C. board...for the good of the Patriot League, Emmett Davis needs to be fired. Of course he won't be since nobody cares enough at Colgate about the team for poor play like this to matter to them.
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-12-07 02:03 AM - Post#30129
In response to BUPilot
I just watched the clip on ESPN.com, and I am in COMPLETE shock! You are not going to get a tip in having to heave it the length of the court. Davis should've told his players to stand still...Colgate deserves better!
I think we know what #1 on next Saturday's SportsCenter Not Top 10 will be!
Was that the same Chones that broke D-Brown's wrist???
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Bison137
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-12-07 02:56 AM - Post#30130
In response to BUFan
Quote:
Was that the same Chones that broke D-Brown's wrist???
Yes.
If you look at the clip, Chones clearly sees Eitutavicius way before the hit and keeps running towards him and puts up his hands to protect himself from the contact. It's almost like Chones wanted to hit Eitutavicius to teach him a lesson about trying to set a pick on him. I guess he figured the ref wouldn't dare call a foul at that juncture.
A poster on the HC board makes a good point about the Colgate "crowd" possibly costing them the game. Would the ref have dared make that call if Cotterell was packed with 3000 screaming fans right on top of him? Assuming Flannery and the Bison team lost their collective minds and pulled a play like Colgate did, do you think a ref would make that call in a packed Sojka?
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-12-07 03:26 AM - Post#30131
In response to Bison137
There's no way that call gets made in a packed Sojka pavilion if Flannery & the team lost their collective minds. Especially since it's hard to tell from the replay whether the AU player really had gotten established in a stationary position before Chones steamrolled him. In that regard it was probably the force of the hit from Chones & the fact that Chones put his hands up before the hit that prompted the foul.
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atlantabison
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-12-07 01:21 PM - Post#30132
In response to BUPilot
Before we throw too many stones, we have been the victim of this one before in the early 80's. Up 1 with 1 second left in old Davis Gym we led Lehigh (I think, although I have tried to blot this one from my memory.) Lehigh was inbounding on the sideline and tried to run a pick to free up a shooter. Our defender ran over the pick setter and got whistled. (I could name him here, but I think he probably has tried to forget it as well.) Lehigh hit both free throws to win by a point. It was a slightly different scenario, but to those of us present it felt as bad. Before we blame coaches remember that these are still kids. They do stupid things even if told not to. That said I am not going to post here in defense of Emmitt Davis. Yet as a high school coach I understand that there is sometimes a difference between what you tell a team to do and what happens on the court.
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-12-07 02:29 PM - Post#30133
In response to atlantabison
While I can't speak to what happened in the early 1980s in Davis Gym, I think the difference is that this is not the first boneheaded play by Colgate by a long shot. Emmett Davis coached Colgate teams had a well established history of underperforming the perceived talent level, playing with poor discipline, etc. before this weekend's collapse. I doubt that Bucknell's basketball team and Coach Woolery had the same track record going into the game where they may have fallen victim to this play as well back in the 1980s.
Put simply, if Colgate generally played good basketball I think folks would be willing to chalk this up to as an unfortunate but unexpected poor decision on the court. Emmett Davis has, for better or worse, lost the ability to get the benefit of the doubt on plays like this because of Colgate's performance over 7 or 8 years now.
Though it would probably make things harder for Bucknell in the long run inside the league, Emmett Davis must go.
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atlantabison
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Re: Colgate Loss Today - Apparently only Emmett Davis could have done it!!
02-12-07 02:36 PM - Post#30134
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As I said, I am not attempting to be an Emmett Davis defender, I have ripped him on this forum on multiple occasions. Colgate needs to make a change if for no other reason than to add some energy into the program. I was simply pointing out that things like what happened to Colgate on Sunday are more common than we might like to think.
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