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Re: Don’t Tap on the Aquarium …
03-09-07 05:44 PM - Post#31460
In response to JDP
But Harter inherited a team which had graduated two all Ivy's & two other senior starters and got a late start on recruiting so had a weak frosh class. The next year, his first real recruiting year, he brought in Bilsky, Wohl & Jim Wolfe. Freshman weren't eligible (anywhere) for varsity then; but the frosh team won close to 20 games & it was obvious that Harter was going to turn the program around. The next class was Calhoun/Morse/Cottler & Billingslea and the Penn era of Big Five & Ivy dominance was started.
Scott inherited four returning starters from the Ivy Champ & turned in a losing league season. He's gone downhill from there & the objective evidence suggests he will have a second division team next year & one of the weakest freshman classes in the league.
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joe nassau
Sophomore
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Re: Don’t Tap on the Aquarium …
03-09-07 06:46 PM - Post#31461
In response to
Wow... consider me spanked. What I said was hypothetical but hardly ridiculous. My timeline may have been faulty, but aren't these players the archetypal types that Princeton supposedly can't attract. Wasn't Gloger recruited by UCLA? Didn't Gloger have a game his freshman year where he made 8 or 9 threes? Wasn't Young on his way to being maybe the best center in Princeton history? Wasn't Krug a McDonald's High School All-American? Of course it's all hypothetical, but if things had worked out differently for these guys, who knows what kind of players Princeton would be attracting.
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dperry
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Re: Joe Must Go? Yes, he must.
03-09-07 07:16 PM - Post#31462
In response to Chuck
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Dave, problem is that Scott could have a 6-8 or 7-7 season next year (in the league) and it would be incredible progress over this year and I can promise you that there would be numerous people claiming the Scott was "turning things around." Of course, if one looked at Scott's four-year record it would look much like progress...
Like I said, Chuck, if they are as bad as this year. If they go 2-12 in the Ivies next year, I doubt very much that he will get a fifth year to try and improve in. The Tiger fans may be a bit more mellow than we are, but they ain't THAT mellow.
And hey, if he goes 6-8 next year, he can stay there and continue to do that as long as he wants. It's fine by me. :-)
David Perry
Penn '92
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penn nation
Professor
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Re: Joe Must Go? Yes, he must.
03-12-07 04:38 PM - Post#31463
In response to penn nation
Well, I guess there's hope for Joe Scott after all. Mediocrity in a poor conference CAN pay big dividends:
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-knicks-thomas&prov=ap&type=lgns
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stevemerk
goober
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Re: The number is not one....
03-15-07 12:17 AM - Post#31464
In response to Quakermaniac81
I see that Mr. Scott has another interview with the moderator! He has more interviews than George W. He goes around in circles like Gary Walters did regarding Syracuse and Drexel when interviewed on WFAN.
Lets face it, if Mr. Scott had the kids interest at heart, he would step down, clear the air and let someone else take over. He won't, his ego won't let him, so meanwhile the kids comming into the program continue to suffer. All I can say for Max Schafer, Alex Okafor and the rest, great job Joe!!
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Acobj
newbie
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Re: The number is not one....
03-20-07 01:39 AM - Post#31465
In response to Quakermaniac81
Does it occur to you fellows Princeton has become quite ordinary. The talent is ordinary, the coach is acceptable but mediocre and to many Ivy type players there is just nothing spcial about Princeton.
Ex-Tiger Robinson hasa huge talent group incoming. Cornell has talent that is not ordinary. Princeton is ordinary and that will lead to the Cornells and the Browns becoming the best of the front runners as the Quakers edge back a bit.
Hard to buy for Princeton; being ordinary.
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10Q
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Re: The number is not one....
03-20-07 02:01 AM - Post#31466
In response to Acobj
It has occurred.
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Old Bear
Postdoc
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Reg: 11-23-04
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Re: Joe Must Go? Yes, he must.
03-20-07 12:50 PM - Post#31467
In response to dperry
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Dave, problem is that Scott could have a 6-8 or 7-7 season next year (in the league) and it would be incredible progress over this year and I can promise you that there would be numerous people claiming the Scott was "turning things around." Of course, if one looked at Scott's four-year record it would look much like progress...
Like I said, Chuck, if they are as bad as this year. If they go 2-12 in the Ivies next year, I doubt very much that he will get a fifth year to try and improve in. The Tiger fans may be a bit more mellow than we are, but they ain't THAT mellow.
And hey, if he goes 6-8 next year, he can stay there and continue to do that as long as he wants. It's fine by me. :-)
Given what Yale, Cornell, Brown, Columbia and Penn bring back next year, if Scott goes 6-8 or better, he deserves to come back.
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mmp629
Junior
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Reg: 11-22-04
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Re: Joe Must Go? Yes, he must.
03-20-07 01:58 PM - Post#31468
In response to Old Bear
No, Joe does not deserve to come back under any circumstances.
He has single-handedly ruined the program!
I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone would try and justify this guy's DISMAL record at PU and give reasons why he should be kept on.
I wish Walters had the guts to toss him out on his ear.
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