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Re: Not talking about competitiveness or success 02-16-05 07:21 PM - Post#4114
In response to Chip Bayers
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I wholeheartedly agree that the league doesn't understand marketing.
Brown has taken great strides forward in the last couple of years, and competed for the championship because of it, with rabid crowds turning out for games in '02 and '03 and '04. .
In this thread, there are two issues, woven togerter, that I have issues with. Certainly winning hepls fill some seats, but at Brown, at least, it's student attendance that's impacted. The "Rabid" crowds of '02,'03,'04 seasons were largely limited to the Penn & Princeton games, I don't believe there were any other full houses. Tee shirt and Towel give aways, and local Billboard, TV and Radio campaigns haven't produced a whole lot. Unlike PC and URI, Brown's alumni a widely scattered and don't have much Basketball history. Notwithstanding marketing efforts, a 5000 seat arena at Brown and, I suspect, at a few of the other Ivy's, would produce 3000 to 3500 empty seats. I prefer the atmosphere at the Pitz.
On the Miller issues raised earlier in this thread, I don't beleive his "retention" rates vary much from any of the last 5 or 6 Brown coaches, or, for that matter, from the league average. He may be ambitious (I suspect he is) and if we are unable to keep him at Brown forever, then I will take solice in the fact that he proven he could recruit and win at Brown, and that will allow Brown to attract other ambitious candidates for basketball as well as other coaching opportunities.
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