BisonRoadWarrior
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03-07-12 11:31 PM - Post#124921
Tonight I mourn, but by tomorrow I'll be happily focused on the NIT: a happy hunting ground where mid-major teams can prey on big programs who are disappointed to be there. (Like Holy Cross over Notre Dame in 2005.)
NIT basics: 32 team field, with all games played on the higher seed's court until the last four teams head to Madison Square Garden. It's older than the NCAA tournament, and there was a time when teams would pass on the lesser-regarded NCAA tourney to participate in the NIT.
I found this NITology site, but it hasn't been updated since the weekend; I suppose it's hard to make projections at this point about who's in and out (other than automatic qualifiers like us).
http://nitology.com/
I guess we'd be a 7 or 8? Here's last year's bracket for comparison. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_National_In vitat...
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03-07-12 11:42 PM - Post#124925
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
NIT Selection Show: 9pm Sunday on ESPNU.
First Round: March 13 & 14 (Tuesday & Wednesday)
Second Round: March 15-19 (Thursday through Monday)
Quarterfinals: March 20 & 21 (Tuesday & Wednesday)
Madison Square Garden
Semifinals: March 27 (Tuesday)
Championship: March 29 (Thursday)
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Bison89
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03-08-12 12:52 AM - Post#124935
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Hmmmmm, I wonder if I might get to road trip to a West Coast game. That would be nice.
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BUFan
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03-08-12 01:02 AM - Post#124940
In response to Bison89
Here's to hoping Seton Hall's bubble gets popped and the Bison are at the Rock next week
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Gmoney89
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03-08-12 12:45 PM - Post#124992
In response to BUFan
Here's to hoping Seton Hall's bubble gets popped and the Bison are at the Rock next week
From a purely selfish standpoint I second that!
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RichH
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NIT Bracket 03-08-12 01:22 PM - Post#124999
In response to Gmoney89
Does BU have any shot at a Home game? Realise size issue but a guaranteed sellout
Edited by RichH on 03-08-12 01:23 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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Re: NIT Bracket 03-08-12 01:51 PM - Post#125004
In response to RichH
Does BU have any shot at a home game? Realize size issue but a guaranteed sellout
Size isn't an issue at all. It's all about seeding and I can't imagine how we'd be top-4 seed and thus host.
That is, until the quarterfinals, as the streaking #7 Bison, coming off road victories over Pitt and Colorado, return to Sojka to host the red-hot #8 Mississippi Valley Delta Devils.
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RichH
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Re: NIT Bracket 03-08-12 02:04 PM - Post#125006
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Dont understand. Only top 4 of 32 get home games?
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BisonRoadWarrior
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Re: NIT Bracket 03-08-12 02:17 PM - Post#125007
In response to RichH
Dont understand. Only top 4 of 32 get home games?
I was a little unclear. Like the NCAA, the NIT has four regions. In the NIT, there are 8 seeds per region, therefore a team needs to be one of the top four seeds in any one of those regions to host. If you check out last year's bracket, you'll get a sense of the caliber of the 1- through 4-seeds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_National_In vitat...
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RichH
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Re: NIT Bracket 03-08-12 02:18 PM - Post#125008
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Thanks, Confusion more a Senior moment than lack of clarity in your post
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03-08-12 03:30 PM - Post#125024
In response to RichH
The 30-minute NIT Selection Show is Sunday at 9 p.m. on ESPNU
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Bison137
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Re: NIT Bracket 03-08-12 03:40 PM - Post#125025
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
In the NIT, there are 8 seeds per region, therefore a team needs to be one of the top four seeds in any one of those regions to host. If you check out last year's bracket, you'll get a sense of the caliber of the 1- through 4-seeds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_National_In vitat...
Note, however, that #8 seed McNeese State and #6 seed College of Charletson both hosted first round games last year - presumably because their opponents' arenas were unavailable. BU has offered to host a first round game, so maybe we'll get lucky and draw an opponent who has to play on the road.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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NIT Bracket 03-08-12 03:53 PM - Post#125030
In response to Bison137
Good point, 137. Dayton was a higher seed but couldn't host Charleston since Dayton's arena is used for NCAA "first-round" games.
Here's another site--and more recently updated--that offer NIT seeding speculation:
http://collegehoopsnet.com/nitology-the-field-32 -t...
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RichH
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Re: NIT Bracket 03-08-12 04:12 PM - Post#125032
In response to Bison137
In the NIT, there are 8 seeds per region, therefore a team needs to be one of the top four seeds in any one of those regions to host. If you check out last year's bracket, you'll get a sense of the caliber of the 1- through 4-seeds.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_National_In vitat...
That would be cool
Note, however, that #8 seed McNeese State and #6 seed College of Charletson both hosted first round games last year - presumably because their opponents' arenas were unavailable. BU has offered to host a first round game, so maybe we'll get lucky and draw an opponent who has to play on the road.
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Bison137
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03-08-12 04:17 PM - Post#125033
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
Barring a few more upsets, I see BU as a 7 seed since there is clearly a bias in favor of teams from larger conferences with larger arenas. Wouldn't mind seeing Bu play St. Joes.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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NIT Bracket 03-08-12 07:27 PM - Post#125055
In response to Bison137
No idea how credible, but here's another projection:
http://ncaabasketballpred ictions.blogspot.com/2012...
And another, which will be the favorite among those pulling for a Seton Hall match-up:
http://nycbuckets.com/2012/03/nit-bracketol ogy-mar...
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res
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03-08-12 08:11 PM - Post#125059
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
I must admit, I've lost touch with the NIT since the NCAA took over, other than to realize that regular season champions receive automatic bids.
But for a number of years the NIT didn't necessarily have a bias towards the major conferences, they had a bias towards who they thought would put more fannies in the seats, which sometimes meant schools from lesser conferences whose fans were excited about an NIT invitation got home games. Probably not true any longer.
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BUFan
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03-08-12 08:24 PM - Post#125061
In response to res
Ironically, the WSJ Online had an article today about NIT Bracketologists:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052 9702046...
I really think the Bison can be a dangerous team here. If Bucknell had to play today, they'd be dejected, but with a week to prep, I think they will have brushed off the loss and will come out with a nice little chip on their shoulder. On the flip side, Bucknell is destined to get a bigger conference team fresh off an NCAA snub who may be lacking motivation.
This core has yet to beat a power conference team, so this is a great opportunity to get a nice confidence boost going into next year...
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03-08-12 10:23 PM - Post#125076
In response to BUFan
I am kind of hoping for Tennessee or NC State which are makable trips for us southerners.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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NIT Bracket 03-09-12 11:43 AM - Post#125116
In response to atlantabison
I am kind of hoping for Tennessee or NC State which are makable trips for us southerners.
I would welcome either for their wealth of Waffle Houses.
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