bison63
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03-10-18 04:24 PM - Post#251708
In response to BisonFan4
Sorry, but Colgate, Boston, and Loyola, Md are one thing. Michigan is quite another. The additional big body can’t hurt, even if he is simply held in reserve.
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bison63
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03-12-18 07:29 AM - Post#252258
In response to bison63
Now that we know we are playing MSU, I have 2 questions. First, do we know for a fact that Moore is gone for the season? Second, is there anybody here who thinks that does not matter in a game against the likes of the Spartans? At this point, IMO, it is the team and the fans being punished more than Moore. I love Nate Sestina, but I would like to have every big body possible available for this game, especially given Nate's propensity for foul trouble.
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Bison137
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03-12-18 11:08 AM - Post#252331
In response to bison63
As far as I know, there has been no public statement that he is gone for the season. I wouldn't be surprised to see him on Friday, but I have no info. He is certainly much needed against a team like Michigan State.
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HuskyColonial
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03-12-18 11:24 AM - Post#252339
In response to Bison137
I still trying to shake my bitterness over the opponent and location. What’s the line on the game?
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BisonRoadWarrior
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03-12-18 11:27 AM - Post#252342
In response to HuskyColonial
What’s the line on the game?
Spartans by 14
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HuskyColonial
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03-12-18 11:36 AM - Post#252345
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
I really like us to cover that. The Arkansas game is the only the evidence that we wouldn’t and that was our only blow out loss in 34 games.
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bison63
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03-12-18 11:48 AM - Post#252351
In response to HuskyColonial
I really like us to cover that. The Arkansas game is the only the evidence that we wouldn’t and that was our only blow out loss in 34 games.
I do not think the St Joe’s game was as close as the final 13 point margin would suggest, and i’d definitely consider Northeastern a blowout. Both those losses, which at the time were “ bad,†looked better by the seasons end, as NE actually passed us in many rankings and the Hawks closed the gap considerably. Still, I think we will give a good account of ourselves.
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BUFan
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03-12-18 11:52 AM - Post#252355
In response to bison63
MSU has not been blowing out most B10 opponents, and I truly feel Bucknell would’ve been a middle of the pack B10 squad. They should be able to hang around.
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alg55
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03-13-18 01:09 AM - Post#252659
In response to raymondbucknell
They ARE really good kids. They made a mistake and have learned their lesson.
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alg55
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Re: Bison137
03-13-18 01:11 AM - Post#252660
In response to Bison137
I also know it and I know how sorry he is. He has learned his lesson and the punishment should be over.
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Paulie777
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03-13-18 09:32 AM - Post#252667
In response to alg55
Sometimes students of any demographic in the bubble need to blow off some steam and it may be a tough place at times for some basketball players. I hope coach understands this and gives them a break, everyone needs one at times. That said, Stephen Brown has risen to every challenge and even overcame the coaching change with poise and Nana also. I can't believe we're going to the dance with one player not playing and two others disciplined. This team is fragmented through and through with Flannery's asst. running the show and star Griffin on bench trying to get these guys going. Paulson is gone but his three recruits are running the show and even Hardt has jumped ship. Now we have a player thats not playing in the big dance and we're supposed to try to beat Mich. St. in Detroit?
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DoCtoR62
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03-13-18 11:50 AM - Post#252717
In response to Paulie777
I hope it is not the case that this team is fragmented.
I believe everyone on here who has knowledge of the infraction(s) and who believes the punishment up to this date should be enough. But, it should be noted that the one person who beyond all others would profit the most from a first round win is head coach Nathan Davis. And, the one person who beyond all others would want to have these seniors experience the thrills of 2005 and 2006 is head coach Nathan Davis. I am hard pressed to think that he hasn't had conversations with his seniors and with his assistants throughout this ordeal. Possible, but unlikely.
GO BISON.
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Bison137
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03-13-18 12:00 PM - Post#252718
In response to Paulie777
Sometimes students of any demographic in the bubble need to blow off some steam and it may be a tough place at times for some basketball players. I hope coach understands this and gives them a break, everyone needs one at times. That said, Stephen Brown has risen to every challenge and even overcame the coaching change with poise and Nana also. I can't believe we're going to the dance with one player not playing and two others disciplined. This team is fragmented through and through with Flannery's asst. running the show and star Griffin on bench trying to get these guys going. Paulson is gone but his three recruits are running the show and even Hardt has jumped ship. Now we have a player thats not playing in the big dance and we're supposed to try to beat Mich. St. in Detroit?
I think "fragmented" is absolutely incorrect. Paulsen's three recruits have now played three very successful years - in an offense that brought out the best in them. Also the discipline for two of the players is in the past, and the discipline for the third may be as well. As for the discipline, it is different at a school like Bucknell - as it should be - but having said that, the same offense at most P5 schools would not have warranted even a one game suspension. Maybe a few extra laps.
As for Hardt, I wouldn't say he "jumped ship". He had an opportunity to make a lot more money at a school in a higher-level league. Also in an area where he might well want to retire.
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BisonRoadWarrior
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3 Player suspension - It May Not Be Over
03-13-18 12:45 PM - Post#252733
In response to Paulie777
This team is fragmented through and through with Flannery's asst. running the show and star Griffin on bench trying to get these guys going. Paulson is gone but his three recruits are running the show and even Hardt has jumped ship.
What an absolutely preposterous post. You're truly just making things up out of thin air.
If you must delve so deep into fiction, how about concocting an alternative reality that's positive?
So, for example, rather than characterizing one of the closest, best-chemistry teams you'll ever see as "fragmented through and through," you could tell us they've all grown two inches since the league championship.
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Bison89
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Re: 3 Player suspension - It May Not Be Over
03-13-18 02:16 PM - Post#252769
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
This team is fragmented through and through with Flannery's asst. running the show and star Griffin on bench trying to get these guys going. Paulson is gone but his three recruits are running the show and even Hardt has jumped ship.
What an absolutely preposterous post. You're truly just making things up out of thin air.
If you must delve so deep into fiction, how about concocting an alternative reality that's positive?
So, for example, rather than characterizing one of the closest, best-chemistry teams you'll ever see as "fragmented through and through," you could tell us they've all grown two inches since the league championship.
Why stop there? How about adding in the Jolly Green Giant, Snow White, and one of my favorites, The Grinch? 
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Paulie777
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Re: 3 Player suspension - It May Not Be Over
03-13-18 02:44 PM - Post#252777
In response to BisonRoadWarrior
If you must delve so deep into fiction, how about concocting an alternative reality that's positive?
This whole thread is of a negative bent at least the title is.
I think my Michigan St. post is pretty positive.
I think this team is fragmented. Bruce Moore being suspended is fragmented enough.
There are remnants of the Kansas era in Davis and Griffin, and remants of the Paulson era with Zach, Nana, and Stephen. Flannery and Paulson are gone and we have an interim AD. Davis's recruits are being disciplined. We have great individual play but we can't make a pass and are turnover prone.
Again, for my positive alternate reality post, see the Mich.St.thread.
Edited by Paulie777 on 03-13-18 03:05 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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MangyOne
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Re: 3 Player suspension - It May Not Be Over
03-13-18 03:05 PM - Post#252786
In response to Paulie777
Boy, Paulie 777, who tinkled in your Wheaties? With the absolutely absurd post, you best stick to the Michigan State site. Who gave you this sccop - Sasquatch?
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crd012
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Re: 3 Player suspension - It May Not Be Over
03-13-18 03:12 PM - Post#252794
In response to Paulie777
If you must delve so deep into fiction, how about concocting an alternative reality that's positive?
This whole thread is of a negative bent at least the title is.
I think my Michigan St. post is pretty positive.
I think this team is fragmented. Bruce Moore being suspended is fragmented enough.
There are remnants of the Kansas era in Davis and Griffin, and remants of the Paulson era with Zach, Nana, and Stephen. Flannery and Paulson are gone and we have an interim AD. Davis's recruits are being disciplined. We have great individual play but we can't make a pass and are turnover prone.
Again, for my positive alternate reality post, see the Mich.St.thread.
Stop digging. The first post was ridiculous, no need to double down on it.
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bison63
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03-13-18 03:25 PM - Post#252803
In response to crd012
Maybe we need to know what Pauline means by “ fragmented,†because the conventional definition is certainly negative and implying factions warring against each other. Is he possibly just pointing out the varied nature of this teams makeup.
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BisonFan4
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03-13-18 03:31 PM - Post#252807
In response to bison63
That was actually how I interpreted his post & was a little confused as to why ppl were jumping down his throat lol
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