palestra38
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03-14-18 04:48 PM - Post#253083
In response to penn nation
Strongly disagree. We have 4 guys coming in who are more highly touted recruits and will be able to play. We'll have again only 2 seniors (Rothschild and Woods) who will play major minutes, unless Donahue is the designated shooter next year. Steve Donahue will have these guys ready.
But that's next year.
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penn nation
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03-14-18 04:51 PM - Post#253084
In response to palestra38
Next year in the (rebuilt) Palestra.
Is the Seder over now?
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10Q
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03-14-18 04:58 PM - Post#253086
In response to penn nation
It’s all house money
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TheLine
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03-14-18 05:20 PM - Post#253089
In response to 10Q
The Kansas dudes must be getting a kick outta this.
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TheLine
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03-14-18 05:23 PM - Post#253090
In response to TheLine
I like being the underdog. It's part of our DNA now.
And I like who's coming next year. Wang is a big recruit, no?
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penn nation
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Kansas
03-14-18 05:33 PM - Post#253091
In response to TheLine
Even there we're the underdog because the more touted recruit from that school is going to...
Edited by penn nation on 03-14-18 05:34 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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Charlie Fog
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Re: Kansas
03-14-18 05:46 PM - Post#253092
In response to penn nation
... play in a high school gym
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TheLine
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03-14-18 06:08 PM - Post#253094
In response to Charlie Fog
Been looking over some of the advanced stats for Kansas.
The bigs are good at finishing at the rim, the guards are good at shooting 3's, they don't shoot many long jumpers. There's no way we'd be able to contain Dok, we might be able to slow down De Souza and Lightfoot but it's going to be tough. With 3 guys hitting 3's at a 40+% rate it's going to be real tough to chase all of them off the arc. Svi is too tall for us to completely contain.
Kansas isn't a great OReb team - good for us - but they're probably better at it than any team we've faced including Nova.
On D, Kansas defends the 3 well and have bigs who can make life difficult inside. Lightfoot looks to be a good defender based on the numbers.
Such is life as a 16 seed.
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Penndemonium
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03-14-18 06:10 PM - Post#253095
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Whatever you want to believe.
Good Luck Thursday.
See you next year.
HDG, I'll back you that both coaches deserve praise - without the attached snark. How can we criticize TA other than to say that he should do more than turn a perennial bottom dweller into a perennial competitor for the championship?
In the games I watched, Harvard did appear noticeably larger and more athletic. It felt a bit uphill for Penn on that front. I would give the in-game chess match to Donahue, but that is not a slight on Amaker. His team was composed and competed all the way through. To me, Harvard is a well coached team. His schemes did not seem to create as much offense for the players though - he seemed to rely more on the talent of the players to create offense than to scheme it.
I'll take Donahue for our program, but that is placing a long bet that he will be able to recruit effectively. We'll see if he can actually fulfill that forecast.
Great season!
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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03-14-18 06:15 PM - Post#253096
In response to Penndemonium
I have no problem at all with your perspective. Penn was definitely well coached and Coach Donahue should be commended - actually, he was, as Coach of the Year!
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AsiaSunset
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03-14-18 06:59 PM - Post#253101
In response to TheLine
Did you know that Michael Wang actually lives with Spencer Feldman's family?
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penn nation
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03-14-18 07:03 PM - Post#253102
In response to AsiaSunset
Freedman not bizarro Kramer
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weinhauers_ghost
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Re: Kansas
03-14-18 07:44 PM - Post#253105
In response to Charlie Fog
No One Likes Us, We Don’t Care
Same as it ever was.
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SomeGuy
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03-14-18 08:19 PM - Post#253115
In response to palestra38
I’m not conceding anything next year. A team that moved up to 127 in pomeroy and returns it’s best 2 players plus 2 more starters should be a top 100 team. I expect to be better next year, and that means Harvard and Yale will need to improve by more to pass us.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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03-14-18 08:37 PM - Post#253119
In response to SomeGuy
I love your confidence, but I think a lot depends on what kind of contributions we get from Williams, Scott and Wang, LLC.
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Ben Franklin
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03-14-18 08:46 PM - Post#253121
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
Let me speak for all the Jayhawks fans and ask, "Why the hell are the Penn nerds on the thread titled 'Kansas' talking about Tommy Amaker and Harvard?"
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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03-14-18 08:47 PM - Post#253122
In response to SomeGuy
You do realize that there are virtually no seniors in this league with significant minutes, certainly none on Harvard. I believe Penn loses more than any other team in Foreman and Wood.
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TheLine
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03-14-18 08:51 PM - Post#253123
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
Kind of funny that a guy who almost went to Hartford or Georgian Court until he talked Jerome into recruiting him is now the most feared player on our team according to Harvard and Kansas.
Imagine how awesome he'd be without a stress fracture.
When can we get his picture on that space on the back corner wall? He deserves it.
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HARVARDDADGRAD
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Kansas
03-14-18 08:54 PM - Post#253124
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
I should expand by recognizing that a few teams lose one regular like Yale (Reynolds) and Princeton (Bell), but I don't think that Brown, Cornell or Columbia lose much. Likely Penn loses the most in minutes and points (other than Dartmouth). Harvard loses the least of all schools (Egi, Chatfield, Yoshor).
The entire league is going to get much better next year and - for some teams - even better the year after that.
Edited by HARVARDDADGRAD on 03-14-18 08:55 PM. Reason for edit: No reason given.
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palestra38
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03-14-18 08:59 PM - Post#253127
In response to HARVARDDADGRAD
They both are very good players, but are replaceable. If Williams is as good as advertised and Woods does what I believe he can do as lead guard and Goodman takes another step up, Penn will be very good.
Too bad Harvard doesn't have another 5 minutes tonight.
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