whitakk
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11-16-23 11:24 AM - Post#359300
In response to ToothlessTiger
Lee keeps showing new stuff to impress me - last night it was the play where he drove, got in the air, looked off the defender to the corner and then hit Higgins on the roll. This team is really fun.
I have 35-25 in 18 minutes with the five starters last night, 35-42 in 22 other minutes. Offense-defense subs skew those numbers a bit but not hugely.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-16-23 01:14 PM - Post#359302
In response to whitakk
I watched about half the game last night and then the end of the game this morning.
As the announcers joked, I think Duquesne does in fact practice fouling. Very subtle.
This team has been unique in that they have started the season running the offense in a very comfortable fashion. There is no "feeling out" over their identity.
This is a bit of a surprise, given the absence of Tosan.
I am starting to have flashbacks to teams of earlier eras; great difficulty finding a shot as the 24-second clock expires. There is no one able to break down the defense off the dribble and create a good shot. Allocco comes the closest. This is where they miss Tosan the most.
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iogyhufi
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11-16-23 01:28 PM - Post#359305
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
So obviously, there's a lot of basketball left to be played this non-con, let alone this season.
However...
History suggests that the NCAA selection committee won't recognize you as a team worthy of an at-large until the year after you do something really good (e.g., various mid-major snubs a la Liberty last year).
This was numerically the most difficult non-con game left on Princeton's schedule.
In its remaining non-con games, KenPom favors Princeton in all but one (@St Joe) and favors them by 2/3 chance to win or better in all but two more (@ODU, @Delaware).
I'm just saying, if Princeton doesn't screw anything up, doesn't have any injuries, and manages to win at least two of those three close ones, things start to look interesting for the two-bid Ivy dream.
(Princeton's biggest resume problem is that they'll only have one Quad 1 game this year - @Yale - unless we get a surprising turnaround from Rutgers or Duquesne improves.)
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Tiger81
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Reg: 11-21-04
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11-16-23 01:46 PM - Post#359306
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Xaivian Lee has the potential to create his own shot both off the dribble and from mid-range but I agree he is not as consistent a threat as Allocco.
There is no one able to break down the defense off the dribble and create a good shot. Allocco comes the closest.
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-16-23 02:20 PM - Post#359307
In response to Tiger81
Xaivian Lee has the potential to create his own shot both off the dribble and from mid-range but I agree he is not as consistent a threat as Allocco.
There is no one able to break down the defense off the dribble and create a good shot. Allocco comes the closest.
Lee does not elevate much on his jumper, and the trajectory is low and flat; when closely guarded difficult to get it off.
I was hoping for more from Scott.
Can we get Perkins from Penn? 
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TigerFan
PhD Student
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Reg: 11-21-04
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11-16-23 05:51 PM - Post#359312
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
Lee’s jumpers are usually of the jump back variety, which provides the clearance for his flat trajectory shots and relative lack of elevation. His move to the basket is so quick that defenders have to weigh carefully how close to guard him. Nice combination of weapons that has made him very effective so far this season.
Three very nice wins that completely surprised me. Glad I bought season tix this year!
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1LotteryPick1969
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11-16-23 06:27 PM - Post#359314
In response to TigerFan
Lee’s jumpers are usually of the jump back variety, which provides the clearance for his flat trajectory shots and relative lack of elevation. His move to the basket is so quick that defenders have to weigh carefully how close to guard him.
Indeed. Works well during free flowing portions of the game, but not so well at crunch time.
But yeah, so far so good.
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SRP
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11-16-23 09:38 PM - Post#359320
In response to 1LotteryPick1969
There is a certain charm to rapid acceleration and outright dribbling speed going downhill to the rim, which Lee has in spades. The quick pull-up off of that threat is a nice counter. The offense has to move help defenders a step or two out of position to make that toolset effective, but as long as Lee has good judgment about when to go it is a big net positive for the team's scoring potential.
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