AsiaSunset
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04-08-24 08:54 PM - Post#367132
Michael Zamboni a guard from Mercer
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palestra38
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Re: New Transfer
04-08-24 09:12 PM - Post#367133
In response to AsiaSunset
Zanoni....not Zambomi
https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/micha...
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AsiaSunset
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04-08-24 09:19 PM - Post#367134
In response to palestra38
Thks. It autocorrected
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penn nation
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Re: New Transfer
04-08-24 09:31 PM - Post#367135
In response to palestra38
Otherwise see if the Flyers need him.
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penn nation
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Re: New Transfer
04-08-24 09:33 PM - Post#367136
In response to AsiaSunset
Michael Zamboni a guard from Mercer
What accounted for his lack of playing time in his sophomore year? Injured?
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penn nation
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Re: New Transfer
04-08-24 09:36 PM - Post#367137
In response to penn nation
Medical redshirt, so I answered my own question.
According to a brief Twitter search, FIVE players from Mercer entered the portal. What's going on over there?
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UPIA1968
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04-08-24 10:41 PM - Post#367139
In response to penn nation
Mercer had a KP Rank of 209. There is nothing in this guys stats to indicate he is a find.
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TigerFan
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04-08-24 10:57 PM - Post#367140
In response to UPIA1968
1.3 pts/game and 16.7% FG/11.1% from deep this year, but the kid has a nice head of hair on him.
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weinhauers_ghost
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04-08-24 11:10 PM - Post#367141
In response to UPIA1968
Mercer had a KP Rank of 209. There is nothing in this guys stats to indicate he is a find.
First year stats were much better. He's got some size, so if he's healthy, he might be able to contribute.
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AsiaSunset
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04-09-24 06:26 AM - Post#367143
In response to weinhauers_ghost
He broke his foot in Oct of his soph year and it looks like he tried to play with it for a short time. Likely a stress fracture but I didn’t see details.
In hs he was an all state player, a Rivals 3 star, and had offers from Mercer, South Carolina, Coastal Carolina, Elon, Charleston Southern, UMBC and Mount St Mary’s
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Streamers
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04-09-24 08:43 AM - Post#367146
In response to AsiaSunset
That makes me more hopeful.
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T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
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04-09-24 02:56 PM - Post#367164
In response to AsiaSunset
He broke his foot in Oct of his soph year and it looks like he tried to play with it for a short time. Likely a stress fracture but I didn’t see details.
In hs he was an all state player, a Rivals 3 star, and had offers from Mercer, South Carolina, Coastal Carolina, Elon, Charleston Southern, UMBC and Mount St Mary’s
So he's Henry Brooks, Part II.
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penn nation
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04-09-24 03:13 PM - Post#367165
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
So he's Henry Brooks, Part II.
He has 3 years of eligibility left, not 10.
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SteveDanley
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04-09-24 04:59 PM - Post#367171
In response to T.P.F.K.A.D.W.
So you're saying his % on mid-range jumpers *won't* regress to the mean?
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weinhauers_ghost
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04-09-24 07:51 PM - Post#367176
In response to penn nation
So he's Henry Brooks, Part II.
He has 3 years of eligibility left, not 10.
Hah!
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palestra38
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04-09-24 08:32 PM - Post#367177
In response to SteveDanley
Henry, Justin Reilly and Harrison Gaines are all in the P38 "What Could Have Been Hall of Fame"
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Silver Maple
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04-09-24 09:59 PM - Post#367178
In response to palestra38
I've wondered about Henry Brooks. He certainly came in very highly rated. If he had played for a coach who wasn't totally incompetent and who had his players' interests at heart, he might have been a contender.
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weinhauers_ghost
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04-10-24 12:19 AM - Post#367182
In response to Silver Maple
There were way too many players from that era who either couldn't stay healthy, weren't a good fit for Penn, or just didn't pan out.
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yoyo
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04-10-24 02:31 PM - Post#367225
In response to AsiaSunset
He broke his foot in Oct of his soph year and it looks like he tried to play with it for a short time. Likely a stress fracture but I didn’t see details.
In hs he was an all state player, a Rivals 3 star, and had offers from Mercer, South Carolina, Coastal Carolina, Elon, Charleston Southern, UMBC and Mount St Mary’s
nice
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Penndemonium
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04-10-24 04:31 PM - Post#367237
In response to yoyo
I recall being very high personally on the potential of Mike Howlett too. It seemed that injuries derailed his career.
There are so many players who didn't reach potential or seemed in the dog house, but I don't blame any coach for any single player. There are so many things that matter about a player, especially decision-making and response to pressure. Some of those things aren't as obvious to a spectator. Players will have good and bad days, so we often see what we want to see. I never understood why Mike Milobsky, Andreas Schreiber, Dau Jok, Julian Harrell, Eddie Scott, Bryce Washington, and Duane King didn't get more time.
I do blame Miller and Allen for grinding our program to pieces, though. Talent management is a part of that. I have no idea which of the overlooked players deserved more playing time the most.
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penn nation
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04-10-24 05:37 PM - Post#367240
In response to Penndemonium
Wasn't Henry Brooks on the Duane King Ten Year Plan?
I recall being very high personally on the potential of Mike Howlett too. It seemed that injuries derailed his career.
There are so many players who didn't reach potential or seemed in the dog house, but I don't blame any coach for any single player. There are so many things that matter about a player, especially decision-making and response to pressure. Some of those things aren't as obvious to a spectator. Players will have good and bad days, so we often see what we want to see. I never understood why Mike Milobsky, Andreas Schreiber, Dau Jok, Julian Harrell, Eddie Scott, Bryce Washington, and Duane King didn't get more time.
I do blame Miller and Allen for grinding our program to pieces, though. Talent management is a part of that. I have no idea which of the overlooked players deserved more playing time the most.
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AsiaSunset
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04-20-24 01:12 PM - Post#367621
In response to penn nation
Another
Ethan Robert’s from Drake
Played freshman year at Army where he was Patriot League Rookie of the Year
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Streamers
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04-20-24 02:33 PM - Post#367625
In response to AsiaSunset
Another skinny shooting guard. DNP last season from what I can see. Did shoot 41%/48%/85% at Army though.
What's going on at Drake? Looks like nearly the entire roster hit the portal there.
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SomeGuy
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04-20-24 03:26 PM - Post#367627
In response to Streamers
Missed the year with an “undisclosed injury.”
If healthy, his freshman year suggests he should play immediately.
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Streamers
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04-20-24 03:41 PM - Post#367629
In response to SomeGuy
Certainly will if he can defend
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nychoops
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04-20-24 04:06 PM - Post#367630
In response to Streamers
Really nice pickup...smart, efficient quality player
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Streamers
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04-20-24 05:55 PM - Post#367631
In response to nychoops
I feel better about him already.
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UPIA1968
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04-20-24 06:25 PM - Post#367632
In response to nychoops
The shape of next year's team looks largely set now except at small forward.
Small guard has six players including two new players and one further possibility. It is hard to imagine a transfer joining that group.
Shooting guard has four players including two new players. Again not much room for another transfer.
Small forward has only one player on the roster (Holland) with two offers still active (according to Verbal Commits). There is room for one or two more here.
Forwards/center has 6 players including two new arrivals. There is one offer still showing.
As was the case last year the team returns only two clearly superior players after losing its leading scorers. Last year it was Clark and Nick. Despite the succcess of two of the freshmen, the team was awful in the Ivies.
This year, it returns Sam and Nick. We hoped it would be three including Tyler. But his loss means we are forced to depend either on the development of the sophomores or catching lightning with the new arrivals. I suppose Eddie, Cam, Reese, Jonnie, or George could suddenly jump up two notches, but we have seen enough of them to doubt such an outcome.
So, again, the team will depend on the play of newcomers. That will make it interesting - if not satisfying. Given last year's bad result we know it will take more than the arrival of two useful newcomers to make this team a winner. Something dramatic has to happen.
Oh well!
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SomeGuy
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04-20-24 10:46 PM - Post#367636
In response to UPIA1968
I wonder if Roberts in particular is more of a 3/4 for us. His rebounding was comparable to Perkins as a freshman, and Donahue has had a tendency to play small at the 4 position. So you could see him being a Betley type. With Laz and Perkins gone, it will be interesting to see how Donahue handles the 4 position. Like a lot of people, I’m hoping it’s Holland.
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nychoops
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04-21-24 05:32 AM - Post#367643
In response to SomeGuy
He's a willing defender and rebounded bc he's such a tough kid but you don't want him guarding 4's...he's a great 2/3 fit. He's a great kid and adds a real toughness
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Streamers
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04-21-24 09:34 AM - Post#367648
In response to nychoops
Sounds a bit like George Smith with a better shot.
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Penndemonium
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04-22-24 01:05 AM - Post#367668
In response to Streamers
nychoops, any word whether his injuries were likely career altering? Any projections on whether he is an impact Ivy player? His video seemed to show someone who can contribute right away if healthy.
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yoyo
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04-22-24 10:42 AM - Post#367679
In response to Penndemonium
Will he have 3 years of eligibility?
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QHoops
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04-22-24 11:18 AM - Post#367682
In response to yoyo
Or to be responsive to the current environment:
Does he have a 1 year guaranteed contract and two player option years.
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AsiaSunset
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04-22-24 11:19 AM - Post#367683
In response to Penndemonium
There is an article in the DP today. He says the injury will not inhibit him in the future.
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yoyo
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04-22-24 11:30 AM - Post#367684
In response to QHoops
sad but true
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andybech
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04-23-24 05:32 PM - Post#367716
In response to yoyo
Roberts seems a pretty good signing and will almost certainly start. Looks like most of Drake's team including its best player transferred when the coach went to West Virginia.
Still a pretty uninspiring outlook for next year though unless a couple of the freshmen are better than expected immediately.
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AsiaSunset
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04-23-24 06:54 PM - Post#367717
In response to andybech
The majority of Ivy teams need to replace significant contributors next year. It’s way too early to be so bleak.
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Silver Maple
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04-23-24 09:17 PM - Post#367722
In response to AsiaSunset
Oh, please. It's never too early to be bleak.
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weinhauers_ghost
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04-23-24 09:58 PM - Post#367724
In response to Silver Maple
Oh, please. It's never too early to be bleak.
In our collective case, bleakness is an ongoing existential condition. It's optimism that's foreign.
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Penndemonium
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04-24-24 03:18 AM - Post#367726
In response to weinhauers_ghost
I do like the look of some of our Freshmen on video. Some look like they can make a difference. I was just harboring that slight hope that we were going to start stringing together good recruiting classes. I was pretty happy with Perkins and Brown, but it looks like we need to start over yet again.
Roberts does look like an impact player for us. Too early to guess if he's a potential star.
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SomeGuy
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04-24-24 01:57 PM - Post#367733
In response to Penndemonium
Zanoni doesn’t seem as sure a bet, but his freshman numbers suggest he should be in the mix as well, and could even push to start.
As for the overall outlook, Brown, Cornell, and Harvard all lose a lot. Brown will still be dangerous with Lilly, but it seems like we will have a chance for the Ivy tournament. Princeton will be far off in the distance, and probably Yale too. But the rest of the boats have sunk down toward us. Will be interesting to see if a suddenly comparatively experienced Columbia team can make some noise next year, too.
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palestra38
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04-24-24 01:59 PM - Post#367734
In response to SomeGuy
Given what's happened in the League, Columbia would be a major disappointment if they don't make the tournament.
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